Would we all agree that "The wages of sin is death" means, both Spiritual and physical? Or, one or the other?
The Wages of Sin is DEATH
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PneumaPsucheSoma
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In Romans 6:23, "wages" is "opsonion", from opson (meat) and oneomai (to buy). This is signifying whatever is bought to be eaten with bread. Provisions; supplies for a soldier's pay. It is the "meat-price" in the martket, and it differs from the wages paid to a worker.
It's physical death, and it's from sin (singular articular); which is NOT any other noun form you and so many others substitute because you have no clue.
Spiritual death is what all humanity since Adam is born into at conception, resulting in singular articular sin; the wages of that sin is physical death.
But since you don't know what thanatos (death) even is, you can't know what any of that means.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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No, it's to maintain the actual meaning of the text in the face of its perversion by nominal and arrogant Englishizers who believe their autonomous opinions trump every detail of grammar they don't understand and pervert.
You're a heretic of heretics, and you literally can't know it because you've presumed to know what scripture means from your English perspective.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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No. You hear arrogance every time you speak. You have no clue, and continue to babble on and on with your blah, blah, blah.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Odd that you would say such a thing on a forum where no one can know what kind of life someone leads.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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Wow. So your prayers have made you the one who understands scripture. I guess it's your prayers alone that are effective. Everyone should be worshipping you, oh great praying one. It's all your prayers.
You have just endicted yourself in ways you will never be able to see.
PneumaPsucheSoma
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You're that Publican, having professed how you pray all the time about scripture. YOU are the Publican.
There are many Christians hang onto single verse they base their faith, and skip many, many of Jesus' inconvenient word.
You mean like when you cling onto Matthew through John, then, reject the rest of the Bible?
PneumaPsucheSoma
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No, but thanks for the admission of your natural AND spiritual ignorance.
Really? Peter indicated Paul said things difficult to understand. And your demands for "simple" are the same ones always made by those who have no idea what scripture says because they have been slothful and entitled, insisting God do it all for them without them being renewed in the spirit of their minds.
Good thing I'm not wise AFTER THE FLESH, and only according to the depths of meaning in the inspired text alone.
Even you should understand the difference scripture makes between "wise after the flesh" and "wisdom" that we are supposed to have in Christ.
Your pride and entitlement leave you at the mercy of your own flesh. YOU are the one who is wise after the flesh.
You skip more of Jesus' word that anybody here.
Very childish "return comment" considering you're supposed to be a self-admitted member of the "Upper-echelon of Intelligentsia?" It would be comparable to saying: "I know you are but what am I?" Something a child would say. Shame on you. Think before you attempt to say something of absolute brilliance.
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You forgot to read the rest of the verse? 2 Corinthians 3:16 "as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
As you see Peter says, Paul is hard to understand for: "Untaught and unstable" people. Those are the ones that have difficulties understanding Paul's writings. You leave out some of the content in order to make your "weak point."
PPS, it would be best to get off your Tricycle, put on your big boy pants, and walk and talk like a real man? As I see it, you're only playing the part of a mature adult.
This, "I know you are but what am I" doesn't cut it PPS.
PPS, now it's time for you to leave an inspiring long winded, retort filled with longggggg words and phrases.
Or, you could just say: "I know you are but what am I" and leave it at that?
I'll be honest with ya PPS, you're not gonna win here.