The Validity of Salvation

[Word]

There are many different theories
among Christians and even them written about in the bible
as to exactly how one obtains the Salvation of God.

How do you validate which one is the correct one?

 

[jamie]

There are many different theories
among Christians and even them written about in the bible
as to exactly how one obtains the Salvation of God.

How do you validate which one is the correct one?

Faith based on belief that God's word is true. (John 17:17)

 

[Word]

Faith based on belief that God's word is true. (John 17:17)

How do you differentiate God's word from all other?

 

[jamie]

How do you differentiate God's word from all other?

By what is written for us.

 

[patrick jane]

There are many different theories
among Christians and even them written about in the bible
as to exactly how one obtains the Salvation of God.

How do you validate which one is the correct one?

The dispensations given firstly to Paul and lastly in the Bible. They are straight from God and it's quite obvious when we read Romans thru Philemon.

Read the scriptures in my signature among countless others in the Bible

 

[Word]

By what is written for us.

How do you validate that which is written
is the truth?

 

[Word]

The dispensations given firstly to Paul.

How do you validate that which
Paul believed and taught is the truth?

 

[Word]

and lastly in the Bible.

How do you validate that which is in the bible is the truth?

 

[Word]

They are straight from God and it's
quite obvious when we read Romans thru Philemon.

It is quite obvious that you have not validated as being true
anything you have read from the bible and believe is the truth.

 

[Word]

That is how you become so easily deceived
all the time in your life.

 

[jamie]

How do you validate that which is written
is the truth?

You put it to the test to prove its verity.

 

[Word]

You put it to the test to prove its verity.

I am not going to tell you how I validate everything.

You made the statement that insinuated
everything in the bible was the truth.

I asked you...

How do you validate that
which is in the bible is the truth?

 

[jamie]

I am not going to tell you how I validate everything.

Okay.

:carryon:

 

[Bradley D]

How does anyone find out if anything is true. By living it.

 

[Word]

How does anyone find out if anything is true. By living it.

Do you live a lie?

I never live a lie.

 

[Bradley D]

One knows if they are living a lie by their conscience. Do you believe in a conscience?

 

[Word]

One knows if they are living a lie by their conscience.

No, they do not.
If they did then
they would not be deceived.

Take you for example.

How many times have you
failed trying to do something
then tried again and again and again.

More than you can count.

I fail at nothing.

Because I do nothing out of the will of God.

If it is not in the will of God there is no temptation
on earth that can persuade me to do different.

Because I know it will fail and I will suffer
the outcome of that failure.

And if I am going to suffer anything
then I am going to make sure that it honors
myself and God by doing the will of God.

 

[Crucible]

There are two opposed core doctrines of salvation:

'Imputed Righteousness' (Protestant/predestination)

and

'Infusion' (Catholic/free will)

Any theory of salvation ultimately trickles down from one of the two.

 

[jamie]

I fail at nothing.

Because I do nothing out of the will of God.

If it is not in the will of God there is no temptation
on earth that can persuade me to do different.

Well, that is very Islamic. They believe as you do.

 

[Word]

Well, that is very Islamic. They believe as you do.

No, they do not believe as I do.

They are not born of God.