Yak...yak...yak. All denial with no proof. Stop spouting unsupported lies denying the evidence and try finding something that can give Americans confidence that the evidence presented in the Lindell video is wrong.
The "QAnon" Fraud!
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Arthur Brain
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Yes he did, blatantly. All of those times where he was telling you that it was all under control and would disappear in Spring last year? Lies. Fact. Just as it's fact that he's on record in his own words for downplaying it and enjoying doing so also. Yet that seems to be all okay with you.
Trump absolutely did do the wrong thing in trying to coerce Raffensberger into "finding" 11,000 votes that weren't his. Thankfully, Raffensberger did the right thing and kicked all of that into touch. A Republican with some integrity, as plenty others are.
Arthur Brain
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Yak yak pretty much sums Lindell up. In case you've somehow forgotten, the burden of proof is on those making claims of fraud which have come to zero including 'my pillow guy'. This latest is given the same short shrift as previous. Guess why?
Trump did not say anything which increased covid deaths, but Cuomo and Whitberg did send patients into rest homes increasing covid deaths and Fauci obstructed investigations into the origin of covid, causing government agencies to be slow to take actions that should have been taken. Democrats falsely blame Trump for making covid worse, which is clearly a democrat lie propagated by scum for purposes of promoting scum politicians.
Translation of Trump's call to Raffensberger: 'Listen, you moron. If you cannot find 11,000 bad votes among hundreds of thousands of unverifiable ballots then you are an idiot.'
You are wrong about that supposed burden you claim democrats have no responsibility to bear. Americans have lost confidence in the democrat-handled voting methods because of the evidence they already know and do not need more democrat denials for that confidence to be restored. If democrats obstruct investigations into allegations of fraud and make no effort whatsoever to disprove the allegations then American confidence in democrat voting procedures and results cannot possibly be restored.
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Meanwhile Joe the Rapist, who ran on a platform of "I know how to end covid!", is responsible for the deaths of 185,710 Americans
Arthur Brain
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Well, yes he did. All on record. It would just "magically disappear" last April and so forth. He lied to you. You seem to be okay with that.
Regarding your latter, that's some "standard" for protocol isn't it? Was Raffensberger supposed to kowtow to Trump?
Arthur Brain
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The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, that's it. You should know this by now.
By all credible and verifiable standards, Trump lost the 2020 election.
That's grossly misleading, of course. The truth can be found here:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
As you can see, the RCP Average of polls taken during the week before election day showed Clinton with 46.8% support and Trump with 43.6% support, giving Clinton a +3.2% lead--which is within the margin of error. But in fact, Clinton did win the popular vote by some ~3 million.
It isn't the case that "those people conducting those polls have been proven to be bad at their jobs," but rather that you have been proven to be bad at telling the truth.
Voting machines flipped tens of thousands of votes from Trump to Biden, you say? In case you don't remember, Biden won the popular vote by some 7 million. Even if you "claim to have irrefutable proof the voting machines flipped tens of thousands of votes from Trump to Biden" (which you don't!) that wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election.
Whatever!That's grossly misleading, of course. The truth can be found here:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clintonwww.realclearpolitics.com
As you can see, the RCP Average of polls taken during the week before election day showed Clinton with 46.8% support and Trump with 43.6% support, giving Clinton a +3.2% lead--which is within the margin of error. But in fact, Clinton did win the popular vote by some ~3 million.
It isn't the case that "those people conducting those polls have been proven to be bad at their jobs," but rather that you have been proven to be bad at telling the truth.
So how did his excessive optimism about the coming end of covid deaths cause hundreds of thousands to die of covid? And why are idiots blaming Trump for deaths caused by Cuomo and Fauci?
I don't need any proof to make tens of millions of Americans suspicious of democrat election practices. Democrats need to adequately demonstrate how what looks like fraud is not really fraud at all.
You can defend polls all you like but you cannot prove polls are not tainted by bias which is why so many are proven wrong.That's grossly misleading, of course. The truth can be found here:
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
As you can see, the RCP Average of polls taken during the week before election day showed Clinton with 46.8% support and Trump with 43.6% support, giving Clinton a +3.2% lead--which is within the margin of error. But in fact, Clinton did win the popular vote by some ~3 million.
It isn't the case that "those people conducting those polls have been proven to be bad at their jobs," but rather that you have been proven to be bad at telling the truth.
You don't know what you are talking about. Democrat politicians are on record expressing concern about the fact that voting machines are subject to undetectable tampering. Experts have found clear evidence of tampering in 2020 which democrats deny but fail to disprove.
Well you certainly don't know what you are talking about, because if the goofs on your side of the argument had evidence to back up their claims they wouldn't have been sent packing from every court they've been into...especially by conservative judges!
Not a single court in the country has tried cases of alleged voter fraud and found the evidence proved voter fraud did not occur. When voter fraud was found in Detroit in 2016 the recount was shut down and the fraud was not investigated. Just because courts do not try clear cases of fraud does not mean no fraud took place.
Arthur Brain
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Suspicions mean squat. Some people believe the earth is flat, doesn't make it so and you kinda do need proof for any claim to be taken seriously. Once again, the burden of proof is one those making the allegations, not on anyone to disprove anything. How's that worked out so far?
Democrats know they cannot debunk the massive evidence of voter fraud so they use the only tactic they know to deceive the gullible and stupid - tell them they must be innocent because practically no investigations into the credible allegations have been initiated and not much fraud has proven in a court of law in most cases. Such an argument is so stupid that it takes a real idiot to buy into it.
Arthur Brain
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What 'massive evidence' of voter fraud? What 'credible allegations'? Do you understand what the term 'burden of proof' means?