The Preterists and Matthew 24:34

musterion

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Peter says the following to his audience:

(1 Peter 2:10) Once you were NOT a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

The Jews who had left Judaea had always had mercy from God (Hosea 1).

So, who was Peter addressing, when Peter told them "once you had not received mercy"?

It's impossible that Peter was addressing Jews who had left Judaea.

At what point were his Jewish addressees "not a people"? When did they become "the people of God"?

It's amazing to watch you ignore stuff you yourself post. If you take one, you got to take both.
 

john w

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No, the second coming happened in 70AD.

Plagiarism.




"Jesus never physically returned, and never will physically return to lanet earth after He ascended to Heaven"-Preterist deceiver Tet.



According to his Preterist con job, in this "man made" AD 70-ism "belief system," he returned "un physically," but everyone saw Him, and that was "all of Jerusalem," and signs are invisible.


“And that is what happened. The Lord came in a way that everyone could see Him. However, He never touched planet earth, and when this event was over, He then sat on the throne in Heaven NOT on planet earth.”-Tet.

Ascended up physically, never returned physically in AD 70, just as some disembodied spirit, everyone saw Him, even though he did not return physically in AD 70.


Scam artist.


"Everyone" that saw Him, according to Craigie, was Josephus, and Wikipedia. Wait....

Craigie caught in more of his habitual lying....


"Tet: "The LORD Jesus Christ returned in the form of a Roman Army." "-STP

"Never said that."-Tet.

Vs.

You lied-again. That is your MO/"ministry" on TOL-habitual lying.


"Tet is a preterist that believes Christ already returned in 70 AD via the Roman Army."-Tambora, on another TOL thread

"Correct, and thanks for making it clear that it was the Roman army that was His return."-stupid Craigie

You are so obsessed with us meanie MAD-ists, you can't keep track of all your lies, spin.

"The Roman army destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. That is what Jesus meant when He said He will return."-Gomer Tet.
 

john w

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See above. Since 70AD, believers in Christ are instantly in the presence of God upon physical death.

One more time, perverter of 1 Cor. 15 KJV ff....


You deny the future resurrection of "OT saints," which, by definition, is physical, and deny the future redemption of the body, also, by definition, physical, promised to respective members of the boc, asserting that these teachings of Paul, do not apply today-on record, and thus pervert the gospel of Christ:


Romans 8:23 KJV

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Philippians 3:21 KJV

who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.


Go TOL audience-ask Craigie Tet. if these 2 passages apply today. He will say that they do not, out of one side of his mouth, and, out of the other, in hypocrisy, deception, spam:

"It's a denial of what the Apostle Paul taught...I believe the Apostle Paul's teachings are mostly for those of us who live post 70AD..."

Tet: Does not apply today....Fulfilled AD 70....Fulfilled in Christ Jesus....Darby....You are in denial...........Teachings of fallable men.......Don't you believe the bible/'Jesus'/Paul?.....


Cricket....cricket....
 

john w

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Nah....never read Darby.


Ever read James Stewart Russell? "The Parousia"?

Tet. plagiarizes from J Stuart Russell's "The Parousia," and Hank Hanegraaf's books on prophecy. He learned his "AD 70-ism" from them. I've challenged him on it, shown direct quotes, and the punk then shuts up.

He's a habitual liar, fraud.
 

john w

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You've been taught by someone who was taught by someone, who was taught by someone, who was taught by someone, who was taught by Darby.

Otherwise, you wouldn't keep parroting Darby.


Of course.

The difference between Darby and Russell, is that many men taught preterism before Russell, but no one taught Dispensationalism before Darby.


As usual, his MO on TOL, as he resorts to his "Hail Mary," when he is getting picked apart, embarrassed, by MAD proponents, such as Steko-"Darby" spam.

No one taught your brand of "AD 70-ism"/Preterism, before you. As I've asked you over 100 times, show us who did-names, sources.

Tet: not a peep.


"many men taught preterism before Russell, but no one taught Dispensationalism before Darby."-Craigie


Made up, child of the devil. You've been shown just the opposite, but your father the devil keeps telling you to deny it.
 

musterion

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You deny the future resurrection of "OT saints," which, by definition, is physical, and deny the future redemption of the body, also, by definition, physical, promised to respective members of the boc, asserting that these teachings of Paul, do not apply today-on record, and thus pervert the gospel of Christ

Doesn't that kinda make Tetsie...I don't know quite how to say this...a dispensationalist? That the resurrections belong to a different period of God's dealings with man? :think:
 

john w

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Doesn't that kinda make Tetsie...I don't know quite how to say this...a dispensationalist? That the resurrections belong to a different period of God's dealings with man? :think:

He will give you, as part of his "trifecta," "You are in denial...."
 

tetelestai

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At what point were his Jewish addressees "not a people"?

That's my point, they weren't Jews.

The only people ever told they were "not a people" in the Bible were the Israelites from the 10 tribes.

The Jews were NEVER told they were "not a people"

Therefore, it's impossible that Peter's addressees were Jews.

When did they become "the people of God"?

When the New Covenant was made.

It's amazing to watch you ignore stuff you yourself post. If you take one, you got to take both.

I'm not ignoring anything.

It's impossible to read 1 Peter 2:10, then read Hosea 1, and then claim Peter's addressees were Jews.

Yet, that's what you do.
 

tetelestai

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Do you think the Mt. 13 harvest took place already?

Yes.

That the "end of the age" in verse 40 was in 70AD?

(Heb 9:26) ...But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself.

How much more clear could the writer of Hebrews be?

The writer of Hebrews tells us that "the culmination of the ages" happened in the first century when Christ Jesus made His one time sacrifice.

Yet, Darby followers will tell you it's a yet future event despite what the writer of Hebrews said almost two thousand years ago.

Not to mention, Darby followers deny that Christ Jesus' one time sacrifice for sin was good enough. They claim people in the future will have to sacrifice animals for sin atonement.

Dispensationalism is a mess.
 

john w

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Yet, Darby followers will tell you it's a yet future event despite what the writer of Hebrews said almost two thousand years ago.

Not to mention, Darby followers deny that Christ Jesus' one time sacrifice for sin was good enough. They claim people in the future will have to sacrifice animals for sin atonement.

Dispensationalism is a mess.

Spam.
 

john w

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Then why did you mention it, Preterist Perverter?

...Darby followers deny that Christ Jesus' one time sacrifice for sin was good enough. They claim people in the future will have to sacrifice animals for sin atonement.

That's a serious charge, sweetie.

Are we lost?


Watch the wimp, spineless Craigie pass, shut up, on that one.

He has no purpose here, except to wine, and pine, about how his former girlfriend, named "Darby," mistreated him.
 

john w

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As is his MO, and, like all AD 70-ists/Preterists, Preterist Perverter Craigie "scurried like a cockroach, when the light is shined on them."
 
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