THE LORD WILL REIGN ON EARTH WITH ISRAEL
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Saying it doesn't make it so.
Your opinions notwithstanding, again, God's plan for the nation of Israel has been put on hold, and they have temporarily been set aside in their unbelief.
Yes He is.
Denying scripture won't get you anywhere, Caino, except hell.
You mean the one that had been spoken about throughout scriptures?
Oh, that's right, you reject that Scripture came from God.
Well, no, He certainly failed their expectations, but nit because He was incompetent, but because their expectations were wrong.
He was indeed their Messiah, but He came for a larger purpose than simply overthrowing the Romans.
Except that, none of his ancestors wrote any of the Bible.
Moses did. Moses was a descendant of Abraham. And Moses got his history straight from the One who had been there all along.
Your attempts at trying to discredit scripture are getting tiring.
You should stop.
That nation that God wanted to give it to?
It was the nation of BELIEVING Israel.
Unbelieving Israel was cut off, not the Believers.
It's so simple, yet you have the hardest time with it.
In light of the fact that the son of God failed to live up to erroneous expectations of an exclusively Jewish Messiah, a new theology was invented after he retuned to his real throne on high. The claim that the Son of God and creator of this world will return to do what the Jews erroneously concluded a Jewish Messiah would do the first time, is just more speculation and conjecture that will be disproven yet again.
There was ALWAYS going to be a larger purpose, the Israelites made it small and all about themselves. They are still waiting and still following their scripture books.
The priest class wrote the scripture. Subsequent generations made the claim that God wrote it.
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A BELIEVING faith community not a nation. Jesus went first to the faith community of Judaism. Nationalism contaminates Christian theology by commingling two different things. Its the same theological nationalism that was a stumbling block for the Jews. The Jews failed to evolve an adequate nontheologic philosophy of life.
Jesus made it clear "My kingdom is not of this world" It's so simple, yet you have the hardest time with it.
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You do not understand what Jesus meant by "this world". Read the WHOLE verse instead of cherry-picking what you want to ABUSE.
This clearly indicates a TEMPORARY condition.
Eating and drinking at His table in His KINGDOM!
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
Goes perfectly with the spiritual teaching: "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
The Kingdom of heaven established by Christ is the spiritual fellowship among believers in his original Gospel; the Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of ALL mankind, not an especially chosen few and their tiny nation.
Jesus chose true parts of scripture and left the rest to die on the vine.
Jesus confirmed that the scriptures were written by religious men and that religious leaders are faulty.
Jesus confirmed that John the Baptist also had wrong ideas about the "coming wrath" when if fact a really nice guy came and won the kingdom by "truth" not violence.
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You are truly hopeless.
The kingdom within YOU is PLURAL.
The KING was in Israel and they rejected Him.
Since you are unable to handle what the scripture actually says, you twist it into a pretzel.
Its you who claim we are on a 2,000 intermission, a delay, a temporary something until the Israel show gets going again.
Its not a complicated theological concept, when 2 or more gather together in the name of Christ they are in his "kingdom".
Matthew 6:33 - But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
Romans 14:17 - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
John 3:3 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Mark 10:15 - Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Matthew 6:19-21 - Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: (Read More...)
Matthew 10:7 - And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Luke 11:20 - But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
Romans 14:17 - For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
John 3:3 - Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Mark 10:15 - Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Matthew 6:19-21 - Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: (Read More...)
Matthew 10:7 - And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Luke 11:20 - But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
That's rich, posting scripture from a book that you don't even recognize as truth to begin with.
Nice doge and you misrepresent my position. The common Bible is comprised of 66 books of varying degrees of quality and accuracy. The earlier books are less reliable than the latter.
In what way did I misrepresent your position?
Because you say so?
I tell you now, the entire Bible is consistent in its quality and accuracy of its representation, of God, history, the people of Israel as a nation, and the nature of man as a whole, from beginning to end.
There are lots of spiritual truths in the Bible. Some of the major themes are based on real events. So I don't discount the whole thing at all. Its like the newspaper, we can get a general idea of what happened but take into consideration the bias of the journalists and imperfect eye witness accounts etc.
I don't find the Bible to be at all consistent.
Why?
Because the Bible is inconsistent. Its as imperfect as we should expect it to be.