The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[Caino]

Stuu,

To follow up on the "full moon" discrepancy, as far as I can tell the moon is technically full for an instant, but looks full for up to 3 days. Assuming that the moon chart is perfect, there is said to be room for error +/- 14 hours, the statement "mellow light of the full moon" puts it within the cycle on Tuesday night, April 4, AD 30


Caino

 

[freelight]

The reality of God

The reality of God

~*~*~

1:2.4 The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

1:2.5 Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the Universal Father.

-UB, Paper 1

Here we see the 'primal' reality of God as the origin of all existence, all knowledge, all perception. This subjectivity of knowledge is validated by the experience of existence itself, in all its relational values, forms and meanings.


pj

 

[Stuu]

Stuu,

To follow up on the "full moon" discrepancy, as far as I can tell the moon is technically full for an instant, but looks full for up to 3 days. Assuming that the moon chart is perfect, there is said to be room for error +/- 14 hours, the statement "mellow light of the full moon" puts it within the cycle on Tuesday night, April 4, AD 30


Caino

Or the Wednesday, even.

Stuart

 

[Caino]

Hello guys and girls ​

"ADAM AND EVE arrived on Urantia, from the year A.D. 1934, 37,848 years ago"

"Adamson was the first-born of the violet race of Urantia, being followed by his sister and Eveson, the second son of Adam and Eve. Eve was the mother of five children before the Melchizedeks left—three sons and two daughters. The next two were twins. She bore sixty-three children, thirty-two daughters and thirty-one sons, before the default. When Adam and Eve left the Garden, their family consisted of four generations numbering 1,647 pure-line descendants. They had forty-two children after leaving the Garden besides the two offspring of joint parentage with the mortal stock of earth. And this does not include the Adamic parentage to the Nodite and evolutionary races."​

Urantia Revelation 1955:​

77:5.10 This center of civilization was situated in the region east of the southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite headquarters of the violet race. In these highland sites, situated in a narrow and ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range, there successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures respectively fostered by four different groups of Adamson's descendants. It was the second of these groups which migrated westward to Greece and the islands of the Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to enter Europe with the blended stock of the last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among the Andite-Aryan invaders of India.​

Discover Magazine 2006:​

"News of this lost civilization began leaking out in the 1970s, when archaeologists came to dig in the southern reaches of the Soviet Union and in Afghanistan. Their findings, which were published only in obscure Russian-language journals, described a culture with the tongue-twisting name Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex. Bactria is the old Greek name for northern Afghanistan and the northeast corner of Iran, while Margiana is further north, in what is today Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Through the region runs the Amu Dar'ya River, which was known in Greek history as the Oxus River. Western scholars subsequently used that landmark to dub the newly found culture the Oxus civilization."​

http://discovermagazine.com/2006/nov/ancient-towns-excavated-turkmenistan

http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1324#U77_5_10

Courtesy of Kenneth Garrett



Caino

 

[Caino]

The Cross

The Cross

MEANING OF THE DEATH ON THE CROSS​

188:4.1 Although Jesus did not die this death on the cross to atone for the racial guilt of mortal man nor to provide some sort of effective approach to an otherwise offended and unforgiving God; even though the Son of Man did not offer himself as a sacrifice to appease the wrath of God and to open the way for sinful man to obtain salvation; notwithstanding that these ideas of atonement and propitiation are erroneous, nonetheless, there are significances attached to this death of Jesus on the cross which should not be overlooked. It is a fact that Urantia has become known among other neighboring inhabited planets as the “World of the Cross.”

188:4.2 Jesus desired to live a full mortal life in the flesh on Urantia. Death is, ordinarily, a part of life. Death is the last act in the mortal drama. In your well-meant efforts to escape the superstitious errors of the false interpretation of the meaning of the death on the cross, you should be careful not to make the great mistake of failing to perceive the true significance and the genuine import of the Master’s death.

188:4.3 Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil-doing of his ancestors. Neither was the Master’s death on the cross a sacrifice which consisted in an effort to pay God a debt which the race of mankind had come to owe him. *

188:4.4 Before Jesus lived on earth, you might possibly have been justified in believing in such a God, but not since the Master lived and died among your fellow mortals. Moses taught the dignity and justice of a Creator God; but Jesus portrayed the love and mercy of a heavenly Father.

188:4.5 The animal nature—the tendency toward evil-doing—may be hereditary, but sin is not transmitted from parent to child. Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature. *

188:4.6 Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

188:4.7 Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

188:4.9 All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

188:4.10 Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

188:4.11 Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

188:4.12 The great thing about the death of Jesus, as it is related to the enrichment of human experience and the enlargement of the way of salvation, is not the fact of his death but rather the superb manner and the matchless spirit in which he met death.

188:4.13 This entire idea of the ransom of the atonement places salvation upon a plane of unreality; such a concept is purely philosophic. Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man. It is true, after all, that you are to be “forgiven your debts, even as you forgive your debtors.”UB 1955​

Caino

 

[Aimiel]

So sorry... but Jesus Himself said otherwise:

Mark 10:45
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

It's ONLY through His Blood that there is ANY chance of ANYONE ever getting into Heaven. Without His Blood there is no hope at all.

 

[freelight]

looking beyond archaic concepts

looking beyond archaic concepts

MEANING OF THE DEATH ON THE CROSS​

188:4.1 Although Jesus did not die this death on the cross to atone for the racial guilt of mortal man nor to provide some sort of effective approach to an otherwise offended and unforgiving God; even though the Son of Man did not offer himself as a sacrifice to appease the wrath of God and to open the way for sinful man to obtain salvation; notwithstanding that these ideas of atonement and propitiation are erroneous, nonetheless, there are significances attached to this death of Jesus on the cross which should not be overlooked. It is a fact that Urantia has become known among other neighboring inhabited planets as the “World of the Cross.”

188:4.2 Jesus desired to live a full mortal life in the flesh on Urantia. Death is, ordinarily, a part of life. Death is the last act in the mortal drama. In your well-meant efforts to escape the superstitious errors of the false interpretation of the meaning of the death on the cross, you should be careful not to make the great mistake of failing to perceive the true significance and the genuine import of the Master’s death.

188:4.3 Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil-doing of his ancestors. Neither was the Master’s death on the cross a sacrifice which consisted in an effort to pay God a debt which the race of mankind had come to owe him. *

188:4.4 Before Jesus lived on earth, you might possibly have been justified in believing in such a God, but not since the Master lived and died among your fellow mortals. Moses taught the dignity and justice of a Creator God; but Jesus portrayed the love and mercy of a heavenly Father.

188:4.5 The animal nature—the tendency toward evil-doing—may be hereditary, but sin is not transmitted from parent to child. Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature. *

188:4.6 Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

188:4.7 Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

188:4.9 All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

188:4.10 Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

188:4.11 Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

188:4.12 The great thing about the death of Jesus, as it is related to the enrichment of human experience and the enlargement of the way of salvation, is not the fact of his death but rather the superb manner and the matchless spirit in which he met death.

188:4.13 This entire idea of the ransom of the atonement places salvation upon a plane of unreality; such a concept is purely philosophic. Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man. It is true, after all, that you are to be “forgiven your debts, even as you forgive your debtors.”UB 1955​

Spot on :thumb:

Also see:

Atonement without blood



pj

 

[Aimiel]

Without faith in the shed Blood of Jesus there is NO remission of sins:

Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

 

[Caino]

Wired Science

Giant Feathered Tyrannosaur Found in China

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/yutyrannus-huali-feathers/


Urantia Papers 1955:

60,000,000 years ago, though the land reptiles were on the decline, the dinosaurs continued as monarchs of the land, the lead now being taken by the more agile and active types of the smaller leaping kangaroo varieties of the carnivorous dinosaurs. But sometime previously there had appeared new types of the herbivorous dinosaurs, whose rapid increase was due to the appearance of the grass family of land plants. One of these new grass-eating dinosaurs was a true quadruped having two horns and a capelike shoulder flange. The land type of turtle, twenty feet across, appeared as did also the modern crocodile and true snakes of the modern type. Great changes were also occurring among the fishes and other forms of marine life. *

(691.2) 60:3.21 The wading and swimming prebirds of earlier ages had not been a success in the air, nor had the flying dinosaurs. They were a short-lived species, soon becoming extinct. They, too, were subject to the dinosaur doom, destruction, because of having too little brain substance in comparison with body size. This second attempt to produce animals that could navigate the atmosphere failed, as did the abortive attempt to produce mammals during this and a preceding age.​

Caino

 

[freelight]

missing link insights?

missing link insights?

Wired Science

Giant Feathered Tyrannosaur Found in China

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/yutyrannus-huali-feathers/


Urantia Papers 1955:

60,000,000 years ago, though the land reptiles were on the decline, the dinosaurs continued as monarchs of the land, the lead now being taken by the more agile and active types of the smaller leaping kangaroo varieties of the carnivorous dinosaurs. But sometime previously there had appeared new types of the herbivorous dinosaurs, whose rapid increase was due to the appearance of the grass family of land plants. One of these new grass-eating dinosaurs was a true quadruped having two horns and a capelike shoulder flange. The land type of turtle, twenty feet across, appeared as did also the modern crocodile and true snakes of the modern type. Great changes were also occurring among the fishes and other forms of marine life. *

(691.2) 60:3.21 The wading and swimming prebirds of earlier ages had not been a success in the air, nor had the flying dinosaurs. They were a short-lived species, soon becoming extinct. They, too, were subject to the dinosaur doom, destruction, because of having too little brain substance in comparison with body size. This second attempt to produce animals that could navigate the atmosphere failed, as did the abortive attempt to produce mammals during this and a preceding age. ​

Caino

Hi Caino,

Interesting article. I know the UB holds a cosmology of 'theistic evolution', life being transported here by the Life-carriers, and all species evolving from lower forms to greater complexity, then primates provided the base stock for man's physical form, with augmentation from the Sons of God, Adam & Eve (sent to be 'biologic uplifters), etc. I'm curious to hear your view or description of man's relationship to primates and the evolution of mind and higher soul-faculties that early man acquired then making man distinct from other primates.

Some creationists contend there is no 'missiling link' from an evolutional development from apes to Man. Any insights on this? - I've yet to plunge headlong into this particularly from a UB perspective, but recognize that man evolves spiritually and acquires certain mind/spirit-faculties and immortality potential at a particular point in a planets evolution, and carries forward when souls receive a 'Thought-Adjuster'. Apparently the soul-endowment and advancement of 'homo sapien' became distinct from ordinary primate species and they continue on, just like today, while Man is different/more evolved, his own 'species' if you will.


pj

 

[Caino]

Big Band and Space Respiration

Big Band and Space Respiration

duplicate post, sorry.

 

[Caino]

Big Bang and Space Respiration

Big Bang and Space Respiration

In the 1940's physicist Fred Hoyle first theorized about the Big Bang theory; a universe in constant expansion. In 1955 the Urantia Papers were printed and revealed, what would have been a bizarre idea in it's day, a universe that expands and contracts. A universe respiration of sorts:

Space Respiration​

(123.3) 11:6.1 We do not know the actual mechanism of space respiration; we merely observe that all space alternately contracts and expands. This respiration affects both the horizontal extension of pervaded space and the vertical extensions of unpervaded space which exist in the vast space reservoirs above and below Paradise. In attempting to imagine the volume outlines of these space reservoirs, you might think of an hourglass.

(123.4) 11:6.2 As the universes of the horizontal extension of pervaded space expand, the reservoirs of the vertical extension of unpervaded space contract and vice versa. There is a confluence of pervaded and unpervaded space just underneath nether Paradise. Both types of space there flow through the transmuting regulation channels, where changes are wrought making pervadable space nonpervadable and vice versa in the contraction and expansion cycles of the cosmos.

(123.5) 11:6.3 “Unpervaded” space means: unpervaded by those forces, energies, powers, and presences known to exist in pervaded space. We do not know whether vertical (reservoir) space is destined always to function as the equipoise of horizontal (universe) space; we do not know whether there is a creative intent concerning unpervaded space; we really know very little about the space reservoirs, merely that they exist, and that they seem to counterbalance the space-expansion-contraction cycles of the universe of universes.

(123.6) 11:6.4 The cycles of space respiration extend in each phase for a little more than one billion Urantia years. During one phase the universes expand; during the next they contract. Pervaded space is now approaching the mid-point of the expanding phase, while unpervaded space nears the mid-point of the contracting phase, and we are informed that the outermost limits of both space extensions are, theoretically, now approximately equidistant from Paradise. The unpervaded-space reservoirs now extend vertically above upper Paradise and below nether Paradise just as far as the pervaded space of the universe extends horizontally outward from peripheral Paradise to and even beyond the fourth outer space level.

(124.1) 11:6.5 For a billion years of Urantia time the space reservoirs contract while the master universe and the force activities of all horizontal space expand. It thus requires a little over two billion Urantia years to complete the entire expansion-contraction cycle.​

Mathematics of Eternity Prove The Universe Must Have Had A Beginning

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/27793/?nlid=nldly&nld=2012-04-25

"In recent years, however, cosmologists have begun to study a number of new ideas that have similar properties. Curiously, these ideas are not necessarily at odds with the notion of a Big Bang.

For instance, one idea is that the universe is cyclical with big bangs followed by big crunches followed by big bangs in an infinite cycle.

Another is the notion of eternal inflation in which different parts of the universe expand and contract at different rates. These regions can be thought of as different universes in a giant multiverse.

So although we seem to live in an inflating cosmos, other universes may be very different. And while our universe may look as if it has a beginning, the multiverse need not have a beginning."​

enjoy!


Caino

 

[Aimiel]

Our universe, which is lower than the other universe (the spirit realm) is the only universe that has been manifested. It indeed DID have a beginning... even though the false book Urantia says that it only, "may look as if it has a beginning." Casting doubt upon God's Holy Word is one of the hallmarks of a false religion.

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

 

[Caino]

The creation of earth (Urantia)

http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1304

Colter

 

[Caino]

The Urantia Files, Fact or Fiction?

http://vimeo.com/mysticscribes/review/40972981/e89c137a8e


Caino

 

[Aimiel]

Fiction. Demonic Doctrine, to be precise.

 

[Caino]

......."tendency to breed distrust and jealousy."​

"The willingness to co-operate. One of the great hindrances to the progress of human society is the conflict between the interests and welfare of the larger, more socialized human groups and of the smaller, contrary-minded asocial associations of mankind, not to mention antisocially-minded single individuals.

No national civilization long endures unless its educational methods and religious ideals inspire a high type of intelligent patriotism and national devotion. Without this sort of intelligent patriotism and cultural solidarity, all nations tend to disintegrate as a result of provincial jealousies and local self-interests.

The maintenance of world-wide civilization is dependent on human beings learning how to live together in peace and fraternity. Without effective co-ordination, industrial civilization is jeopardized by the dangers of ultraspecialization: monotony, narrowness, and the tendency to breed distrust and jealousy."​

http://www.truthbook.com/index.cfm?linkID=1318​

Caino

 

[Burning Bush]

I don't have to read beyond the opening post to know the person behind this so called "revelation" is someone channeling a demon; just more New Age seducing spirits spouting pseudo-spiritual, false love infected ramblings, sent to deceive those that are weak in the faith.

One of these spirits "trademarks" is always stressing about the supposed character of God being of an all inclusive, non-discriminatory, anything goes mentality, when in fact He is very discriminating, in that He separates the light from darkness, the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, the men from demons, the clean from the unclean, the holy from the profane, the sanctified from the unsanctified.

He does not bring unity by being all inclusive/addition under this false noble motive of the betterment of the human race; He brings unity by DIVISION, and He's the only one that can do it that way.

He divided Eve from Adam and brought union, He made covenant/agreement/union by dividing a sacrifice and then walking through the two parts. And finally, He brought union by dividing the Head from the body, via the Holy Ghost being that which every joint supplieth, just as He did to the bullock in pattern on the day of ATONEMENT.

This is how you test the spirits: on the day of Pentecost they all heard the Spirit speaking about the wonderful works of God among men. Principle: the Spirit always exalts the one who sent it.

Not sure of the origin of something? Who does it exalt? If it does not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, then it's not of His Spirit.

 

[freelight]

research

research

I don't have to read beyond the opening post to know the person behind this so called "revelation" is someone channeling a demon; just more New Age seducing spirits spouting pseudo-spiritual, false love infected ramblings, sent to deceive those that are weak in the faith.

If you dont read beyond the first post and learn what the Urantia Papers teach or reveal as a 'whole',...you forfeit a real knowledge of it beyond your preconceived religious bias or assumptions. We also have our 'Intro. to the Urantia Papers thread' if you'd like to educate yourself further.

The Urantia Book Fellowship is a charter resource.

I recommend the introductory articles Here. Also highly recommended is the Meredith J. Sprunger articles, many of which are made for traditional conservative christians, and sharing the significance of the UB within the Christian community Here.

One of these spirits "trademarks" is always stressing about the supposed character of God being of an all inclusive, non-discriminatory, anything goes mentality, when in fact He is very discriminating, in that He separates the light from darkness, the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, the men from demons, the clean from the unclean, the holy from the profane, the sanctified from the unsanctified.

He does not bring unity by being all inclusive/addition under this false noble motive of the betterment of the human race; He brings unity by DIVISION, and He's the only one that can do it that way.

He divided Eve from Adam and brought union, He made covenant/agreement/union by dividing a sacrifice and then walking through the two parts. And finally, He brought union by dividing the Head from the body, via the Holy Ghost being that which every joint supplieth, just as He did to the bullock in pattern on the day of ATONEMENT.

The Papers speak highly of spiritual discernment, the constitution of the soul, its inherent powers and potential, and the whole acumen of the soul's eternal progress and spiritual development. I recommend the first 12 Papers as a fundamental grounding in the theology and cosmological context of the revelation. Part 4 (the last 76 papers) is entirely on Jesus and his ministry.

This is how you test the spirits: on the day of Pentecost they all heard the Spirit speaking about the wonderful works of God among men. Principle: the Spirit always exalts the one who sent it.

The UB (Urantia Book), first published under that 'title' in 1955...is a compendium of 196 Papers, hence it also being called 'The Urantia Papers'. It expands on the origin and history of our planet, and the role and person of Jesus the Christ, glorifying and exalting God, extoling the highest ideals of religious truth and values.

Not sure of the origin of something? Who does it exalt? If it does not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, then it's not of His Spirit.

Again, the papers exalt God, the only utimate and final value, and the lordship of the one whom we know as Jesus the Christ, but gives new information concerning his role and office as Lord, Savior and he being a 'Creator Son' within the cosmology and heirarchy revealed by this groups of celestials. The Spirit of God is open to teach all receptive to truth, in whatever form or fashion it is given. Here we must consider terms, meanings, values and context.

One is free to accept or reject the UB, or see it as inspired religious fiction, however it is an interesting, incredible tome on many levels, from the simple to the profound, integrating religion, philosophy and science confirming and expanding on the planetary knowledge of man at that time (first half of the 20th century). - alot is shared in our dialogues in our UB threads here already, if you'd like to research further.





pj

 

[Aimiel]

I don't have to read beyond the opening post to know the person behind this so called "revelation" is someone channeling a demon; just more New Age seducing spirits spouting pseudo-spiritual, false love infected ramblings, sent to deceive those that are weak in the faith.

One of these spirits "trademarks" is always stressing about the supposed character of God being of an all inclusive, non-discriminatory, anything goes mentality, when in fact He is very discriminating, in that He separates the light from darkness, the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, the men from demons, the clean from the unclean, the holy from the profane, the sanctified from the unsanctified.

He does not bring unity by being all inclusive/addition under this false noble motive of the betterment of the human race; He brings unity by DIVISION, and He's the only one that can do it that way.

He divided Eve from Adam and brought union, He made covenant/agreement/union by dividing a sacrifice and then walking through the two parts. And finally, He brought union by dividing the Head from the body, via the Holy Ghost being that which every joint supplieth, just as He did to the bullock in pattern on the day of ATONEMENT.

This is how you test the spirits: on the day of Pentecost they all heard the Spirit speaking about the wonderful works of God among men. Principle: the Spirit always exalts the one who sent it.

Not sure of the origin of something? Who does it exalt? If it does not exalt the Lord Jesus Christ and Him crucified, then it's not of His Spirit.

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