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The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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Yes it is. The urantia UFO CULT thinks that Jesus Christ is an ET instead of God - the Creator of all.
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Freelight, Caino, and Zeke are followers of the "Freakish" Urantia Book! Which
is known in the Internet as a, "UFO Cult!"
is known in the Internet as a, "UFO Cult!"
As a child they might have been focussed on such TV programs such
as, Star Trek, etc? As a result, they never grew out of it! Their immature
minds remained just that; Immature!
as, Star Trek, etc? As a result, they never grew out of it! Their immature
minds remained just that; Immature!
They eventually came across a "Sci-Fi" belief system (UB) which was to
their liking, and placed their faith in it! Now they've been so brainwashed
that they can't tell the truth from a lie!
their liking, and placed their faith in it! Now they've been so brainwashed
that they can't tell the truth from a lie!
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Have the dignity of informed discussion.......
Have the dignity of informed discussion.......
Note I've taken a little break from the trolling on the UB threads, but may touch on a few points where deemed helpful.
Those who sling mud at something they have not bothered to seriously consider, learn and research to have a good fundamental understanding of it only muddy the lens by which they perceive truth and the world around them. Continually condemning something as 'garbage' and of 'satan', is a typical attack-gesture of a fundamentalist/exclusivist mindset,...when a free spirit and free mind can openly see any book or teaching (fearlessly and honestly) and evaluate it by its own content, meanings, values, etc...in the appropriate context of 'religion'.
They only reveal their own ignorance and bigotry instead of actually engaging a civil, intelligent dialogue, where they could share their 'opinions' in a respectful way (provided they have properly educated themselves on the subject), and use the opportunity as a creative venue to engage a 'dialogue' instead of continual trashing, demeaning, name-calling, belittling, ridiculing, etc. They aren't interested in discussion, which only defeats and muddies the space here, which is disrespectful to the forum when they can serve 'apologetics' in a respectful way and therefore ennoble and make their presentation of Christianity all the more integrous and attractive. 'Trashing language' by no means elevates or makes their 'religion' attractive or desirable. However, truth...wherever it is found is true, good and beautiful,...it has inherent in it the true values of real spirituality, whereby souls can progress towards perfection and do God's will. This is the central purpose and primary goal espoused in the papers, which is oblivious to the critics here. But it doesn't matter, because true principles based on 'love' and 'loyalty to God's will'....ultimately triumph,...no matter what religious story-line, mythos, cosmology or doctrines are shared, that express and embody these concepts and values.
Reality carries on, as the fundamental truth of existence, which includes all relationships.
pj
Have the dignity of informed discussion.......
Note I've taken a little break from the trolling on the UB threads, but may touch on a few points where deemed helpful.
Those who sling mud at something they have not bothered to seriously consider, learn and research to have a good fundamental understanding of it only muddy the lens by which they perceive truth and the world around them. Continually condemning something as 'garbage' and of 'satan', is a typical attack-gesture of a fundamentalist/exclusivist mindset,...when a free spirit and free mind can openly see any book or teaching (fearlessly and honestly) and evaluate it by its own content, meanings, values, etc...in the appropriate context of 'religion'.
They only reveal their own ignorance and bigotry instead of actually engaging a civil, intelligent dialogue, where they could share their 'opinions' in a respectful way (provided they have properly educated themselves on the subject), and use the opportunity as a creative venue to engage a 'dialogue' instead of continual trashing, demeaning, name-calling, belittling, ridiculing, etc. They aren't interested in discussion, which only defeats and muddies the space here, which is disrespectful to the forum when they can serve 'apologetics' in a respectful way and therefore ennoble and make their presentation of Christianity all the more integrous and attractive. 'Trashing language' by no means elevates or makes their 'religion' attractive or desirable. However, truth...wherever it is found is true, good and beautiful,...it has inherent in it the true values of real spirituality, whereby souls can progress towards perfection and do God's will. This is the central purpose and primary goal espoused in the papers, which is oblivious to the critics here. But it doesn't matter, because true principles based on 'love' and 'loyalty to God's will'....ultimately triumph,...no matter what religious story-line, mythos, cosmology or doctrines are shared, that express and embody these concepts and values.
Reality carries on, as the fundamental truth of existence, which includes all relationships.
pj
They are, "Poor lost souls" and will face God's judgment unless they
turn from their false religion/philosophy, and place their faith in Christ?
turn from their false religion/philosophy, and place their faith in Christ?
As I've told you before Freelight, I cannot read through the entirety of
your posts! They are full of "sickening bile!" If a satanist asked me to
seriously consider, learn, and research their "evil beliefs" I would
refuse to, as well! I know enough about the UB, in order to KNOW
their not from God! They come from an, "Occult" background! And,
the occult is of satan!
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Consider the truth of self-responsibility......
Consider the truth of self-responsibility......
Jesus came to reveal 'God' to man, to preach the goodnews of the kingdom of heaven realizable among men, whereby each awaken to know they are children of God (sonship) and have 'God' as their Father. This is the fundamental core of the gospel preached by Jesus in the UB. You have no idea what you're talking about, but only misconceptions.
You want to atone for your sins? Then you can only do that by your own act of repentance. Its called self-responsibility. You must atone for your own sins by repenting, making restitution as is within your means for any wrong or injustice done, as divine grace allows and enables. No one else can atone for your personal sins but your own person, if we are to be true to the law of self-responsibility, the law of compensation. You must make the reparation....and re-turn to righteousness, re-turn to 'God', return to being in harmony with divine law and nature.
pj
Consider the truth of self-responsibility......
Jesus came to reveal 'God' to man, to preach the goodnews of the kingdom of heaven realizable among men, whereby each awaken to know they are children of God (sonship) and have 'God' as their Father. This is the fundamental core of the gospel preached by Jesus in the UB. You have no idea what you're talking about, but only misconceptions.
You want to atone for your sins? Then you can only do that by your own act of repentance. Its called self-responsibility. You must atone for your own sins by repenting, making restitution as is within your means for any wrong or injustice done, as divine grace allows and enables. No one else can atone for your personal sins but your own person, if we are to be true to the law of self-responsibility, the law of compensation. You must make the reparation....and re-turn to righteousness, re-turn to 'God', return to being in harmony with divine law and nature.
pj
The UB fabricated "additions" to the Bible that are NOT inspired by God! The UB
came out around 1955! It has NOTHING to do with the inspired word of God!
(The Holy Bible) and must be shunned as either, a fictional work at best or,
something more sinister! (demonic)
came out around 1955! It has NOTHING to do with the inspired word of God!
(The Holy Bible) and must be shunned as either, a fictional work at best or,
something more sinister! (demonic)
You're NOT, by any stretch of the imagination; a Christian! You have
no reason to pretend that you have any knowledge of what the inspired
word of God is saying/teaching!
Freelight, your eternal soul is in jeopardy! The same goes for
Caino and Zeke!
Caino and Zeke!
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
Only the highest concepts and religious principles are expounded upon....
Only the highest concepts and religious principles are expounded upon....
First of all you and others have been corrected about a false UFO connection with the UB. Owned. Such is a lie. To propagate a lie is to be a liar. See here.
This thread from my perspective is also not about proselyting or seeking converts,....but sharing/considering the UB as a revelation to humanity. Open discussion includes all possible points of view.
Your 'trashing talk' merits no respect or dignity of any kind. You remain ignorant of the papers having not read them, since the religious values, concepts and principles are of the highest aspiration, quality and order.....teaching only the most valiant and praiseworthy principles of right conduct and worship...those precepts whereby souls spiritually advance and ascend Godward.
pj
Only the highest concepts and religious principles are expounded upon....
First of all you and others have been corrected about a false UFO connection with the UB. Owned. Such is a lie. To propagate a lie is to be a liar. See here.
This thread from my perspective is also not about proselyting or seeking converts,....but sharing/considering the UB as a revelation to humanity. Open discussion includes all possible points of view.
Your 'trashing talk' merits no respect or dignity of any kind. You remain ignorant of the papers having not read them, since the religious values, concepts and principles are of the highest aspiration, quality and order.....teaching only the most valiant and praiseworthy principles of right conduct and worship...those precepts whereby souls spiritually advance and ascend Godward.
pj
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
this goes way beyond blood...........
this goes way beyond blood...........
The UB and many other spiritual teachings simply REJECT the concept of 'blood-atonement' because of its illogic, unrationale and ineffectiveness. Blood is only symbolic of life, on a physical level, but that physical blood has no power to redeem, cleanse or make a conscience 'clean'. It can be used as a metaphor for such of course,...but only repentance, spiritual surrender and inner transformation can effect change in the commitment to do God's will, and be in harmony with divine law and nature. There is no fear of Jesus blood, but a more comprehensive understanding of such in the greater context of things.
pj
this goes way beyond blood...........
The UB and many other spiritual teachings simply REJECT the concept of 'blood-atonement' because of its illogic, unrationale and ineffectiveness. Blood is only symbolic of life, on a physical level, but that physical blood has no power to redeem, cleanse or make a conscience 'clean'. It can be used as a metaphor for such of course,...but only repentance, spiritual surrender and inner transformation can effect change in the commitment to do God's will, and be in harmony with divine law and nature. There is no fear of Jesus blood, but a more comprehensive understanding of such in the greater context of things.
pj
The Urantia Book;
1) A fictional rendering of the Bible!
2) It's origin comes from a, "human conduit"
who would, go into a deep sleep and
supposedly, a group of, "Celestial entities"
would speak through him while a secretary
sat at his bedside and wrote down whatever
the "entities" said!
3) The Internet claims it to be, a "UFO Cult!"
4) Published in 1955!
1) A fictional rendering of the Bible!
2) It's origin comes from a, "human conduit"
who would, go into a deep sleep and
supposedly, a group of, "Celestial entities"
would speak through him while a secretary
sat at his bedside and wrote down whatever
the "entities" said!
3) The Internet claims it to be, a "UFO Cult!"
4) Published in 1955!
The UB is a product of the 1950s! So is Scientology!
These two cults had a field day in the 50s!
freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
You are WRONG......
You are WRONG......
False understanding and misconceptions. Again, the UB is not a UFO cult at all. Perpetuating that is a lie. That makes such a person a liar.
If you want to get technical,....if Jesus has a heavenly origin, he is in a sense an ET. This is a true statement, if you understand what ET means. (extra-terrestrial).....something/someone not of this earth. So,...we can play word games.
Second,...since you have no idea or knowledge of UB Christology, you don't know that Jesus who is a Creator-Son, being our Creator is 'God' in that sense, being our 'Creator'....and a most High divine Son, who is the closest representation of God the Father to US, his universe children. So,...the UB does teach that Jesus is both 'God' (divine) and 'Man' (human) thru the mystery of his incarnation. It is a divine mystery how that a Creator-Son who incarnates can be both. We'll leave it at that. To find out more you have to actually read the papers. A novel idea eh?
pj
You are WRONG......
False understanding and misconceptions. Again, the UB is not a UFO cult at all. Perpetuating that is a lie. That makes such a person a liar.
If you want to get technical,....if Jesus has a heavenly origin, he is in a sense an ET. This is a true statement, if you understand what ET means. (extra-terrestrial).....something/someone not of this earth. So,...we can play word games.
Second,...since you have no idea or knowledge of UB Christology, you don't know that Jesus who is a Creator-Son, being our Creator is 'God' in that sense, being our 'Creator'....and a most High divine Son, who is the closest representation of God the Father to US, his universe children. So,...the UB does teach that Jesus is both 'God' (divine) and 'Man' (human) thru the mystery of his incarnation. It is a divine mystery how that a Creator-Son who incarnates can be both. We'll leave it at that. To find out more you have to actually read the papers. A novel idea eh?
pj
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