The Late Great Urantia Revelation

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Since it is a false 'gospel' it is accursed:

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

We know the source of things that are accursed: hell. Here's a great source of information on a Biblical evaluation of the Book of Urantia: http://ubhoax.org/

Your link didn't work for me. The following link may provide the same or complimentary information.

Link: http://www.skepdic.com/urantia.html
 

Zeke

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PneumaPsucheSoma;3779568]Oh, no. Run and hide. Threats from "Mother Gaia" about raping resources that has little to do with individuals and everything to do with the world powers at large that most definitely aren't even anywhere near predominantly Christian.

I figured you would come running like mad dog to that statement.
The banner was under the christian religion, that was based on false literal interpretation, you may not claim them but you still promote the scripture those powers produced. Paper trained little religious whore is what you are with a big mouth.

Bring it, "family of this coming age". You're a stinking reprobate with a fable, and now you want to threaten Christians with a false deity for whatever you attribute as environmental atrocities that aren't ascribed to them.

It's not me you need to worry about, the same Creator that made this living planet that is transitioning into a new age, will deal with religious bigots like you, who play with words but can't grasp the concept of all things being leavened by the spirit.


There is no more worthless drivel and arrogant slug-slime of mankind than what your behavior represents. Go spit, and tell your imaginary Mother Gaia to take it up with the earthly powers that be, which is the Kabbalah pseudo-Jewish banking cartel and their minions that are the flip-side of your delusional esoteric crap.

Your a coward of the worse kind, and can't grasp the simple concept of a living, and life giving force called Gaia, Mother earth if you will which you don't deserve to be on, your a wind bag and ignorant of anything dealing with real brotherly love for your fellow humans, and you just degraded the native americans religion with those ugly remarks Custer.

You've been had, and you blame fundamental Christianity for every ill of the world. Idiot.

If it's your brand then you are correct, heckle and mock all you want but your poor excuse for a man, much-less the follower of the Creator , so shove your Roman paper backed religious bile back where it came from.
 

Zeke

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:rotfl: Mother Gaia! are you serious...:rotfl:...Congratulations you have reached the acme of gullable ignorance, I stand amazed and amused at the same time. May be Xenu is coming to do Mother Gaia's dirty work arriving in his DC-8 spaceship...what a crackup. :rotfl:

Oh look there is xenu now!

xenu981205072.gif

Another westernized mental bigot, who could learn something from earth religions of the native people, but instead has no natural connection to the earth you take for granted, after all Jesus will be galloping on a white horse shortly to save the day, right after Jonah barfs up that fish tale..
 

Caino

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8. Sacred and Profane History

(1070.4) 97:8.1 The custom of looking upon the record of the experiences of the Hebrews as sacred history and upon the transactions of the rest of the world as profane history is responsible for much of the confusion existing in the human mind as to the interpretation of history. And this difficulty arises because there is no secular history of the Jews. After the priests of the Babylonian exile had prepared their new record of God’s supposedly miraculous dealings with the Hebrews, the sacred history of Israel as portrayed in the Old Testament, they carefully and completely destroyed the existing records of Hebrew affairs — such books as “The Doings of the Kings of Israel” and “The Doings of the Kings of Judah,” together with several other more or less accurate records of Hebrew history.

(1070.5) 97:8.2 In order to understand how the devastating pressure and the inescapable coercion of secular history so terrorized the captive and alien-ruled Jews that they attempted the complete rewriting and recasting of their history, we should briefly survey the record of their perplexing national experience. It must be remembered that the Jews failed to evolve an adequate nontheologic philosophy of life. They struggled with their original and Egyptian concept of divine rewards for righteousness coupled with dire punishments for sin. The drama of Job was something of a protest against this erroneous philosophy. The frank pessimism of Ecclesiastes was a worldly wise reaction to these overoptimistic beliefs in Providence.

(1071.1) 97:8.3 But five hundred years of the overlordship of alien rulers was too much for even the patient and long-suffering Jews. The prophets and priests began to cry: “How long, O Lord, how long?” As the honest Jew searched the Scriptures, his confusion became worse confounded. An olden seer promised that God would protect and deliver his “chosen people.” Amos had threatened that God would abandon Israel unless they re-established their standards of national righteousness. The scribe of Deuteronomy had portrayed the Great Choice — as between the good and the evil, the blessing and the curse. Isaiah the first had preached a beneficent king-deliverer. Jeremiah had proclaimed an era of inner righteousness — the covenant written on the tablets of the heart. The second Isaiah talked about salvation by sacrifice and redemption. Ezekiel proclaimed deliverance through the service of devotion, and Ezra promised prosperity by adherence to the law. But in spite of all this they lingered on in bondage, and deliverance was deferred. Then Daniel presented the drama of the impending “crisis” — the smiting of the great image and the immediate establishment of the everlasting reign of righteousness, the Messianic kingdom.

(1071.2) 97:8.4 And all of this false hope led to such a degree of racial disappointment and frustration that the leaders of the Jews were so confused they failed to recognize and accept the mission and ministry of a divine Son of Paradise when he presently came to them in the likeness of mortal flesh — incarnated as the Son of Man.

(1071.3) 97:8.5 All modern religions have seriously blundered in the attempt to put a miraculous interpretation on certain epochs of human history. While it is true that God has many times thrust a Father’s hand of providential intervention into the stream of human affairs, it is a mistake to regard theologic dogmas and religious superstition as a supernatural sedimentation appearing by miraculous action in this stream of human history. The fact that the “Most Highs rule in the kingdoms of men” does not convert secular history into so-called sacred history.

(1071.4) 97:8.6 New Testament authors and later Christian writers further complicated the distortion of Hebrew history by their well-meant attempts to transcendentalize the Jewish prophets. Thus has Hebrew history been disastrously exploited by both Jewish and Christian writers. Secular Hebrew history has been thoroughly dogmatized. It has been converted into a fiction of sacred history and has become inextricably bound up with the moral concepts and religious teachings of the so-called Christian nations.

(1071.5) 97:8.7 A brief recital of the high points in Hebrew history will illustrate how the facts of the record were so altered in Babylon by the Jewish priests as to turn the everyday secular history of their people into a fictitious and sacred history.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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I figured you would come running like mad dog to that statement.
The banner was under the christian religion, that was based on false literal interpretation, you may not claim them but you still promote the scripture those powers produced. Paper trained little religious whore is what you are with a big mouth.

It's not me you need to worry about, the same Creator that made this living planet that is transitioning into a new age, will deal with religious bigots like you, who play with words but can't grasp the concept of all things being leavened by the spirit.

Your a coward of the worse kind, and can't grasp the simple concept of a living, and life giving force called Gaia, Mother earth if you will which you don't deserve to be on, your a wind bag and ignorant of anything dealing with real brotherly love for your fellow humans, and you just degraded the native americans religion with those ugly remarks Custer.

If it's your brand then you are correct, heckle and mock all you want but your poor excuse for a man, much-less the follower of the Creator , so shove your Roman paper backed religious bile back where it came from.

Bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Careful. Your like pimple of a head will pop. Getting you riled up sure works. It doesn't take much to expose you.

You don't know the Creator. And there is no Mother Gaia. Though I have 25% Cherokee lineage, no indigenous Native American religion has any validity or veracity whatsoever.

But I'd take sweat lodges and peyote over the disgusting infectious ooze of you and your loveless, truthless, peers.

Unhinged lunatic.

Big smile. :)

Ba to the ha of the ha in the ha by the ha of the ha over the ha around the ha under the ha across the ha toward the ha behind the ha beyond the ha with the ha for the hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
 

freelight

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Principles.....learn some......

Principles.....learn some......

Bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Careful. Your like pimple of a head will pop. Getting you riled up sure works. It doesn't take much to expose you.

You don't know the Creator. And there is no Mother Gaia. Though I have 25% Cherokee lineage, no indigenous Native American religion has any validity or veracity whatsoever.

But I'd take sweat lodges and peyote over the disgusting infectious ooze of you and your loveless, truthless, peers.

Unhinged lunatic.

Big smile. :)

Ba to the ha of the ha in the ha by the ha of the ha over the ha around the ha under the ha across the ha toward the ha behind the ha beyond the ha with the ha for the hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!


What is sad is that you stealthily slither in with the intention to demean, discourage, degrade and devalue....then get further riled up and accuse the responder for being 'mean' when they respond in kind (spiteful, mean, rude)....which is 'twisted' since you came here with the distasteful, rude, mocking, arrogant attitude to begin with. You may need to look in the mirror to see where all that 'ugliness' is coming from. Is having a pleasant civil dialogue beyond you? - note that it goes without saying that hardly anyone would be attracted to whatever 'theology' or 'philosophy' your espousing with that kind of demeanor.

This immature ego-flame war engagement is disheartening. We might also be reminded that one of the worst sins is to greive the spirit of our brother (this includes harming, denigrating our 'neighbor') - Its hardly Christ-like behavior. Did you remember "do unto others, as you would have them do to you"?

IF you have something to actually add to the dialogue here (instead of attacking others with your long-winded dialectic and word-daggers) then you can do so respectfully, however you've shown you lack the basic respect or decency to do so as of yet, and continue your denigration and trolling the thread here.

See TOL Rule # 7 (note bold) -

7. Thou SHALL NOT troll our forums. If you are here to make outlandish, crazy statements merely to get a rise out of the membership and cause trouble, please save yourself the time and leave.

Also Rule # 1, 3 and 4 while you're at it.

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pj
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
Knowledge is a serious thing.......ignorance benefits no one

Knowledge is a serious thing.......ignorance benefits no one

Just more of the same!

No its not. Did you listen to or read Paper 1 on the Universal Father, then Paper 2 on the 'Nature of God' to make such a comparison? Until you do, you cant make an intelligent informed conclusion on the matter. If haven't the decency to properly learn what your making judgments about, then you participation here is unjustified. This is a discussion forum, did you forget?

The character, nature and attributes of 'God' are fundamental to one's theology, therefore if you have the integrity and where-with-all to behave maturely here, you would investigate if the papers presentation of 'God' is sound, accurate and tenable, - also if it differs any from your 'concept' or 'version' of 'God'. The UB upholds the primary, essential and absolute glory of 'God' as espoused in the religions already on the globe, then further enhances the majesty and magnitude of 'God' per its own unique revelation of the cosmos.

Remember rule #7 (and consider the bold)

7. Thou SHALL NOT troll our forums. If you are here to make outlandish, crazy statements merely to get a rise out of the membership and cause trouble, please save yourself the time and leave.

Also -

Please do not marginalize TOL threads or TOL members, the topics and threads that interest some TOL members might not interest you. Just ignore threads and TOL members that do not interest you



pj
 

rocketman

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Another westernized mental bigot, who could learn something from earth religions of the native people, but instead has no natural connection to the earth you take for granted, after all Jesus will be galloping on a white horse shortly to save the day, right after Jonah barfs up that fish tale..

:rotfl: please stop my sides....:rotfl:
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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[B said:
freelight;[/B]3779724]No its not. Did you listen to or read Paper 1 on the Universal Father, then Paper 2 on the 'Nature of God' to make such a comparison? Until you do, you cant make an intelligent informed conclusion on the matter. If haven't the decency to properly learn what your making judgments about, then you participation here is unjustified. This is a discussion forum, did you forget?

The character, nature and attributes of 'God' are fundamental to one's theology, therefore if you have the integrity and where-with-all to behave maturely here, you would investigate if the papers presentation of 'God' is sound, accurate and tenable, - also if it differs any from your 'concept' or 'version' of 'God'. The UB upholds the primary, essential and absolute glory of 'God' as espoused in the religions already on the globe, then further enhances the majesty and magnitude of 'God' per its own unique revelation of the cosmos.

Remember rule #7 (and consider the bold)



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Were your "papers" inspired by God, Freelight?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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:rotfl: Mother Gaia! are you serious...:rotfl:...Congratulations you have reached the acme of gullable ignorance, I stand amazed and amused at the same time. May be Xenu is coming to do Mother Gaia's dirty work arriving in his DC-8 spaceship...what a crackup. :rotfl:

Oh look there is xenu now!

xenu981205072.gif

Hopefully, these guys won't soon be receiving metallic alien books
with instructions to invade? Just in case, lets keep them busy here!
We might just save planet earth!
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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I mean if a person can give any credibility to a 20th century sci-fi novel like urantia you might as well believe there is a middle earth, there is a Narnia, heck there might as well be a real starship enterprise too and the books and movies on the subject should be canonized as sacred books....*KNOCK* *KNOCK* *KNOCK*....HELLO, Its fantasy not reality, take your hand off the bong. :rotfl:

We better not take any chances, lets keep an eye on the oceans! Why, because "Godzilla" may be lurking off the shore! Watch the skies, "Rodan" might swoop in at any moment? And, don't forget "The Creature from the Black Lagoon!"
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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No its not. Did you listen to or read Paper 1 on the Universal Father, then Paper 2 on the 'Nature of God' to make such a comparison? Until you do, you cant make an intelligent informed conclusion on the matter. If haven't the decency to properly learn what your making judgments about, then you participation here is unjustified. This is a discussion forum, did you forget?

The character, nature and attributes of 'God' are fundamental to one's theology, therefore if you have the integrity and where-with-all to behave maturely here, you would investigate if the papers presentation of 'God' is sound, accurate and tenable, - also if it differs any from your 'concept' or 'version' of 'God'. The UB upholds the primary, essential and absolute glory of 'God' as espoused in the religions already on the globe, then further enhances the majesty and magnitude of 'God' per its own unique revelation of the cosmos.

Remember rule #7 (and consider the bold)



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pj

Actually, I'm commenting on the craziness of this thread!
 

freelight

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engage in a civil dialogue....or leave......

engage in a civil dialogue....or leave......

freelight wrote:

No its not. Did you listen to or read Paper 1 on the Universal Father, then Paper 2 on the 'Nature of God' to make such a comparison? Until you do, you cant make an intelligent informed conclusion on the matter. If haven't the decency to properly learn what your making judgments about, then you participation here is unjustified. This is a discussion forum, did you forget?

The character, nature and attributes of 'God' are fundamental to one's theology, therefore if you have the integrity and where-with-all to behave maturely here, you would investigate if the papers presentation of 'God' is sound, accurate and tenable, - also if it differs any from your 'concept' or 'version' of 'God'. The UB upholds the primary, essential and absolute glory of 'God' as espoused in the religions already on the globe, then further enhances the majesty and magnitude of 'God' per its own unique revelation of the cosmos.


GM wrote: Were your "papers" inspired by God, Freelight?

First read, consider and respond to my previous post and its questions and we can inquire into questions of 'inspiration'. Or stop trolling this thread and leave, respecting rule #7.

GM wrote:

Actually, I'm commenting on the craziness of this thread!

Its apparent that you don't know what this thread is about (yet), having not educated yourself with the information, commentary and resource materials (the content and teaching innate within the UB itself), to add anything of substance, but to belittle based upon presumption. Your typical 'pot-shot' style and litte 'retort-bytes' does not encourage or facilitate real dialogue, but you could attempt an actual 'dialogue' if you gave it an honest effort. Could you?

Our 'repore' has generally been pretty cordial (besides us never having a real in-depth dialogue, and leaving each other alone), as I also enjoy little snippets of humor from time to time, however if you know my 'style', I'm serious and passionate about subjects that interest me in which I've invested time, study and research into (my passion, calling and art). All is a renaissance of consciousness.

If you want me to respect you and your point of view, then return the favor with equal consideration. Educate yourself first upon that which you criticize or you put your own foot in your mouth in the end, when 'reality' gives you an 'aha' moment, and you realize that you were presumptuous, and spoke from ignorance or misplaced confidence in your cherished preconceived belief-system, when you discover it may not have been according to reality after-all, but only a 'belief' which obscured your perception and clouded your judgments.




pj
 
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John Mortimer

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Just wanted to say, I DO find the fact that Gene Roddenberry was a UB devotee to be significant. He was creative, thought provoking and inspiring.

He is a quote from Mr Roddenberry I very much appreciate - and I think it says much for the influence of the UB:

“Reality is incredibly larger, infinitely more exciting, than the flesh and blood vehicle we travel in here. If you read science fiction, the more you read it the more you realize that you and the universe are part of the same thing. Science knows still practically nothing about the real nature of matter, energy, dimension, or time; and even less about those remarkable things called life and thought. But whatever the meaning and purpose of this universe, you are a legitimate part of it. And since you are part of the all that is, part of its purpose, there is more to you than just this brief speck of existence. You
are just a visitor here in this time and this place, a traveler through it.”
 

freelight

Eclectic Theosophist
God engaging creation........

God engaging creation........

Just wanted to say, I DO find the fact that Gene Roddenberry was a UB devotee to be significant. He was creative, thought provoking and inspiring.

He is a quote from Mr Roddenberry I very much appreciate - and I think it says much for the influence of the UB:

“Reality is incredibly larger, infinitely more exciting, than the flesh and blood vehicle we travel in here. If you read science fiction, the more you read it the more you realize that you and the universe are part of the same thing. Science knows still practically nothing about the real nature of matter, energy, dimension, or time; and even less about those remarkable things called life and thought. But whatever the meaning and purpose of this universe, you are a legitimate part of it. And since you are part of the all that is, part of its purpose, there is more to you than just this brief speck of existence. You
are just a visitor here in this time and this place, a traveler through it.”

:thumb:

Gene was also involved in some question and answer sessions with the 'Council of Nine' thru the medium Phyllis V. Schlemmer, some of the dialogue which is contained in her book 'The Only Planet of Choice'. So Gene was involved in the 'contact' with higher extra-terrestrial sources which naturally expanded his consciousness to the greater reality of life and its infinite potential.

While principles like the 'prime directive' and other evolutionary-scientific-philosophical precepts expressed in the Star Trek series are elaborated in the UB, I haven't seen any literal evidence that Gene was a reader of the UB yet, - naturally however if Gene was in tune with the greater Mind of the cosmos, the OverSoul of creation and his own 'Higher Self'..... he would have naturally been consonant with the truths of Spirit, and the innate divine potential in man, he being a part of IT, a part of 'God', since All is One. This takes us back to essential metaphysics ;)



pj
 

Caino

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First read, consider and respond to my previous post and its questions and we can inquire into questions of 'inspiration'. Or stop trolling this thread and leave, respecting rule #7.



Its apparent that you don't know what this thread is about (yet), having not educated yourself with the information, commentary and resource materials (the content and teaching innate within the UB itself), to add anything of substance, but to belittle based upon presumption. Your typical 'pot-shot' style and litte 'retort-bytes' does not encourage or facilitate real dialogue, but you could attempt an actual 'dialogue' if you gave it an honest effort. Could you?

Our 'repore' has generally been pretty cordial (besides us never having a real in-depth dialogue, and leaving each other alone), as I also enjoy little snippets of humor from time to time, however if you know my 'style', I'm serious and passionate about subjects that interest me in which I've invested time, study and research into (my passion, calling and art). All is a renaissance of consciousness.

If you want me to respect you and your point of view, then return the favor with equal consideration. Educate yourself first upon that which you criticize or you put your own foot in your mouth in the end, when 'reality' gives you an 'aha' moment, and you realize that you were presumptuous, and spoke from ignorance or misplaced confidence in your cherished preconceived belief-system, when you discover it may not have been according to reality after-all, but only a 'belief' which obscured your perception and clouded your judgments.




pj

Hi Freelight,

You are confusing these clowns for real truth seekers, rather they are doctrine defenders, they bully because they were bullied. They have been intellectually molested using fear and their own gullibility.

There is a resentful insecurity about people who have been force-fed the chosen people's self important history revisionism. Deep down inside they know there is something profoundly wrong with Noah's nonsense but Biblical idolatry will not permit them to disagree.

The Last Temple Discourse paper 175



The Discourse

(1905.3) 175:1.1 “This long time have I been with you, going up and down in the land proclaiming the Father’s love for the children of men, and many have seen the light and, by faith, have entered into the kingdom of heaven. In connection with this teaching and preaching the Father has done many wonderful works, even to the resurrection of the dead. Many sick and afflicted have been made whole because they believed; but all of this proclamation of truth and healing of disease has not opened the eyes of those who refuse to see light, those who are determined to reject this gospel of the kingdom.

(1905.4) 175:1.2 “In every manner consistent with doing my Father’s will, I and my apostles have done our utmost to live in peace with our brethren, to conform with the reasonable requirements of the laws of Moses and the traditions of Israel. We have persistently sought peace, but the leaders of Israel will not have it. By rejecting the truth of God and the light of heaven, they are aligning themselves on the side of error and darkness. There cannot be peace between light and darkness, between life and death, between truth and error.

(1905.5) 175:1.3 “Many of you have dared to believe my teachings and have already entered into the joy and liberty of the consciousness of sonship with God. And you will bear me witness that I have offered this same sonship with God to all the Jewish nation, even to these very men who now seek my destruction. And even now would my Father receive these blinded teachers and these hypocritical leaders if they would only turn to him and accept his mercy. Even now it is not too late for this people to receive the word of heaven and to welcome the Son of Man.

(1906.1) 175:1.4 “My Father has long dealt in mercy with this people. Generation after generation have we sent our prophets to teach and warn them, and generation after generation have they killed these heaven-sent teachers. And now do your willful high priests and stubborn rulers go right on doing this same thing. As Herod brought about the death of John, you likewise now make ready to destroy the Son of Man.

(1906.2) 175:1.5 “As long as there is a chance that the Jews will turn to my Father and seek salvation, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will keep his hands of mercy outstretched toward you; but when you have once filled up your cup of impenitence, and when once you have finally rejected my Father’s mercy, this nation will be left to its own counsels, and it shall speedily come to an inglorious end. This people was called to become the light of the world, to show forth the spiritual glory of a God-knowing race, but you have so far departed from the fulfillment of your divine privileges that your leaders are about to commit the supreme folly of all the ages in that they are on the verge of finally rejecting the gift of God to all men and for all ages — the revelation of the love of the Father in heaven for all his creatures on earth.

(1906.3) 175:1.6 “And when you do once reject this revelation of God to man, the kingdom of heaven shall be given to other peoples, to those who will receive it with joy and gladness. In the name of the Father who sent me, I solemnly warn you that you are about to lose your position in the world as the standard-bearers of eternal truth and the custodians of the divine law. I am just now offering you your last chance to come forward and repent, to signify your intention to seek God with all your hearts and to enter, like little children and by sincere faith, into the security and salvation of the kingdom of heaven.

(1906.4) 175:1.7 “My Father has long worked for your salvation, and I came down to live among you and personally show you the way. Many of both the Jews and the Samaritans, and even the gentiles, have believed the gospel of the kingdom, but those who should be first to come forward and accept the light of heaven have steadfastly refused to believe the revelation of the truth of God — God revealed in man and man uplifted to God.

(1906.5) 175:1.8 “This afternoon my apostles stand here before you in silence, but you shall soon hear their voices ringing out with the call to salvation and with the urge to unite with the heavenly kingdom as the sons of the living God. And now I call to witness these, my disciples and believers in the gospel of the kingdom, as well as the unseen messengers by their sides, that I have once more offered Israel and her rulers deliverance and salvation. But you all behold how the Father’s mercy is slighted and how the messengers of truth are rejected. Nevertheless, I admonish you that these scribes and Pharisees still sit in Moses’ seat, and therefore, until the Most Highs who rule in the kingdoms of men shall finally overthrow this nation and destroy the place of these rulers, I bid you co-operate with these elders in Israel. You are not required to unite with them in their plans to destroy the Son of Man, but in everything related to the peace of Israel you are to be subject to them. In all these matters do whatsoever they bid you and observe the essentials of the law but do not pattern after their evil works. Remember, this is the sin of these rulers: They say that which is good, but they do it not. You well know how these leaders bind heavy burdens on your shoulders, burdens grievous to bear, and that they will not lift as much as one finger to help you bear these weighty burdens. They have oppressed you with ceremonies and enslaved you by traditions.

(1907.1) 175:1.9 “Furthermore, these self-centered rulers delight in doing their good works so that they will be seen by men. They make broad their phylacteries and enlarge the borders of their official robes. They crave the chief places at the feasts and demand the chief seats in the synagogues. They covet laudatory salutations in the market places and desire to be called rabbi by all men. And even while they seek all this honor from men, they secretly lay hold of widows’ houses and take profit from the services of the sacred temple. For a pretense these hypocrites make long prayers in public and give alms to attract the notice of their fellows.

(1907.2) 175:1.10 “While you should honor your rulers and reverence your teachers, you should call no man Father in the spiritual sense, for there is one who is your Father, even God. Neither should you seek to lord it over your brethren in the kingdom. Remember, I have taught you that he who would be greatest among you should become the server of all. If you presume to exalt yourselves before God, you will certainly be humbled; but whoso truly humbles himself will surely be exalted. Seek in your daily lives, not self-glorification, but the glory of God. Intelligently subordinate your own wills to the will of the Father in heaven.

(1907.3) 175:1.11 “Mistake not my words. I bear no malice toward these chief priests and rulers who even now seek my destruction; I have no ill will for these scribes and Pharisees who reject my teachings. I know that many of you believe in secret, and I know you will openly profess your allegiance to the kingdom when my hour comes. But how will your rabbis justify themselves since they profess to talk with God and then presume to reject and destroy him who comes to reveal the Father to the worlds?

(1907.4) 175:1.12 “Woe upon you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You would shut the doors of the kingdom of heaven against sincere men because they happen to be unlearned in the ways of your teaching. You refuse to enter the kingdom and at the same time do everything within your power to prevent all others from entering. You stand with your backs to the doors of salvation and fight with all who would enter therein.

(1907.5) 175:1.13 “Woe upon you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites that you are! for you do indeed encompass land and sea to make one proselyte, and when you have succeeded, you are not content until you have made him twofold worse than he was as a child of the heathen.

(1907.6) 175:1.14 “Woe upon you, chief priests and rulers who lay hold of the property of the poor and demand heavy dues of those who would serve God as they think Moses ordained! You who refuse to show mercy, can you hope for mercy in the worlds to come?

(1907.7) 175:1.15 “Woe upon you, false teachers, blind guides! What can be expected of a nation when the blind lead the blind? They both shall stumble into the pit of destruction.

(1907.8) 175:1.16 “Woe upon you who dissimulate when you take an oath! You are tricksters since you teach that a man may swear by the temple and break his oath, but that whoso swears by the gold in the temple must remain bound. You are all fools and blind. You are not even consistent in your dishonesty, for which is the greater, the gold or the temple which has supposedly sanctified the gold? You also teach that, if a man swears by the altar, it is nothing; but that, if one swears by the gift that is upon the altar, then shall he be held as a debtor. Again are you blind to the truth, for which is the greater, the gift or the altar which sanctifies the gift? How can you justify such hypocrisy and dishonesty in the sight of the God of heaven?

(1908.1) 175:1.17 “Woe upon you, scribes and Pharisees and all other hypocrites who make sure that they tithe mint, anise, and cumin and at the same time disregard the weightier matters of the law — faith, mercy, and judgment! Within reason, the one you ought to have done but not to have left the other undone. You are truly blind guides and dumb teachers; you strain out the gnat and swallow the camel.

(1908.2) 175:1.18 “Woe upon you, scribes, Pharisees, and hypocrites! for you are scrupulous to cleanse the outside of the cup and the platter, but within there remains the filth of extortion, excesses, and deception. You are spiritually blind. Do you not recognize how much better it would be first to cleanse the inside of the cup, and then that which spills over would of itself cleanse the outside? You wicked reprobates! you make the outward performances of your religion to conform with the letter of your interpretation of Moses’ law while your souls are steeped in iniquity and filled with murder.

(1908.3) 175:1.19 “Woe upon all of you who reject truth and spurn mercy! Many of you are like whited sepulchres, which outwardly appear beautiful but within are full of dead men’s bones and all sorts of uncleanness. Even so do you who knowingly reject the counsel of God appear outwardly to men as holy and righteous, but inwardly your hearts are filled with hypocrisy and iniquity.

(1908.4) 175:1.20 “Woe upon you, false guides of a nation! Over yonder have you built a monument to the martyred prophets of old, while you plot to destroy Him of whom they spoke. You garnish the tombs of the righteous and flatter yourselves that, had you lived in the days of your fathers, you would not have killed the prophets; and then in the face of such self-righteous thinking you make ready to slay him of whom the prophets spoke, the Son of Man. Inasmuch as you do these things, are you witness to yourselves that you are the wicked sons of them who slew the prophets. Go on, then, and fill up the cup of your condemnation to the full!

(1908.5) 175:1.21 “Woe upon you, children of evil! John did truly call you the offspring of vipers, and I ask how can you escape the judgment that John pronounced upon you?

(1908.6) 175:1.22 “But even now I offer you in my Father’s name mercy and forgiveness; even now I proffer the loving hand of eternal fellowship. My Father has sent you the wise men and the prophets; some you have persecuted and others you have killed. Then appeared John proclaiming the coming of the Son of Man, and him you destroyed after many had believed his teaching. And now you make ready to shed more innocent blood. Do you not comprehend that a terrible day of reckoning will come when the Judge of all the earth shall require of this people an accounting for the way they have rejected, persecuted, and destroyed these messengers of heaven? Do you not understand that you must account for all of this righteous blood, from the first prophet killed down to the times of Zechariah, who was slain between the sanctuary and the altar? And if you go on in your evil ways, this accounting may be required of this very generation.

(1908.7) 175:1.23 “O Jerusalem and the children of Abraham, you who have stoned the prophets and killed the teachers that were sent to you, even now would I gather your children together as a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you will not!

(1908.8) 175:1.24 “And now I take leave of you. You have heard my message and have made your decision. Those who have believed my gospel are even now safe within the kingdom of God. To you who have chosen to reject the gift of God, I say that you will no more see me teaching in the temple. My work for you is done. Behold, I now go forth with my children, and your house is left to you desolate!”

(1908.9) 175:1.25 And then the Master beckoned his followers to depart from the temple.
 

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Gene was also involved in some question and answer sessions with the 'Council of Nine' thru the medium Phyllis V. Schlemmer, some of the dialogue which is contained in her book 'The Only Planet of Choice'. So Gene was involved in the 'contact' with higher extra-terrestrial sources which naturally expanded his consciousness to the greater reality of life and its infinite potential.



While principles like the 'prime directive' and other evolutionary-scientific-philosophical precepts expressed in the Star Trek series are elaborated in the UB, I haven't seen any literal evidence that Gene was a reader of the UB yet, - naturally however if Gene was in tune with the greater Mind of the cosmos, the OverSoul of creation and his own 'Higher Self'..... he would have naturally been consonant with the truths of Spirit, and the innate divine potential in man, he being a part of IT, a part of 'God', since All is One. This takes us back to essential metaphysics ;)



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I always found it revealing that they live in the past, believe in the past, a time when celestials were making all sorts of contact with man, but when one mentions celestials today they call it sci-fi :idunno:
 

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The New World Order of Jesus

The New World Order of Jesus

The lost years, Jesus at lake Urmia:




"Religious teachers must always remember that the spiritual sovereignty of God overrides all intervening and intermediate spiritual loyalties. Someday civil rulers will learn that the Most Highs rule in the kingdoms of men.

This rule of the Most Highs in the kingdoms of men is not for the especial benefit of any especially favored group of mortals. There is no such thing as a “chosen people.” The rule of the Most Highs, the overcontrollers of political evolution, is a rule designed to foster the greatest good to the greatest number of all men and for the greatest length of time."


http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-134-transition-years#U134_4_0
 
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