The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[JosephR]

The Late Great Urantia Revelation

Have you or anyone seen the Buddha boy who meditated without moving for several months ?
I thought it was interesting .

Didn't Jesus say something about he ate of food that we not know of?

Might have something to do with sun gazing as well as they say they can go years without eating.
Anyways cool topics and thread



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[freelight]

buddhic insights.......

buddhic insights.......

Have you or anyone seen the Buddha boy who meditated without moving for several months ?
I thought it was interesting .

Didn't Jesus say something about he ate of food that we not know of?

Might have something to do with sun gazing as well as they say they can go years without eating.
Anyways cool topics and thread



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Greetings FJ,

Welcome to the Urantia portal

Are you referring to Ram Bahadur Bomjon ? (it is good to note his 2 addresses given to the public in this wiki article,...I agree essentially with both, for 'dharma' is the way of 'right-doing', 'mercy', 'compassion', 'non-violence' ) - its a start in repairing our world.

The food Jesus spoke of relates to his spiritual bread and divine mission of sacrifice, the 'doing' of the will of Him who sent him. (which the UB emphasizes). A Hindu or Buddhist's path of 'dharma' has similar essentials; the denying one's own self (ego) to live the truth of the higher Self, similar to the path and oath a bodhisattva takes to offer himself for the salvation and liberation of all beings. Being a 'servant'. The way of self-denial (renunciation) is an ancient practice predating Christianity, based on the universal law of surrender. - all comes back to the fundamental of 'love'.

The UB pays Buddhism high respects, the only deficit in its eyes, being its non-theistic concept of 'Deity', denying 'God' being a divine personality (as understood from a traditional theist perspective).

Intro. to Buddhism

Blessings in the buddhi-light,



pj

 

[Caino]

Entire Neanderthal genome finally mapped – with amazing results


There is now conclusive evidence that Neanderthals bred with Homo sapiens – a fact disputed for many years. Some scientists claimed the two species had never even met. Ancient human species, including Neanderthals, Denisovans and Homo sapiens mated with each other, resulting in an incredibly complex family tree. The Denisovans share up to 8 percent of their genome with a “super achaic” and totally unknown species that dates back around 1 million years. The results conflict with the theory that modern humans arose completely from one “out of Africa” migration more than 60,000 years ago that spread worldwide without mating with other early humans. About 1.5 to 2.1 percent of the DNA of all people with European ancestry can be traced to Neanderthals. Proportions of Neanderthal DNA are higher among Asians and Native Americans, who also have small percentages of Denisovan DNA. 6 percent of the genome of Australian Aborigines and indigenous Papua New Guineans belong to the Denisovan species. The Han Chinese, native to East Asia, and the Dai people of southern China are related to both Neanderthals and Denisovans. Some indigenous people from Brazil, such as the Karitiana, are not only related to both Neanderthals and Denisovans, but they show relatively high genetic contributions from the Denisovans. Only 96 genes responsible for making proteins in cells are different between modern humans and Neanderthals. Intriguingly, some of the gene differences involve ones involved in both immune responses and the development of brain cells in people. Somewhere within these 96 genes may lay the answer to why Neanderthals and Denisovans became extinct. And least consequential of all, the Neanderthal woman’s parents were related, possibly half-siblings, or an uncle and niece. As evolutionary biologist Mattias Jakobsson stated, the incest finding “is more of an anecdote”. The results from one individual cannot be applied to an entire species, in the same way that the recent discovery of an incest family in Australia does not apply to the whole of the human race.




http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/entire-neanderthal-genome-finally-mapped-amazing-results-001138

 

[freelight]

Entire Neanderthal genome finally mapped – with amazing results


There is now conclusive evidence that Neanderthals bred with Homo sapiens – a fact disputed for many years. Some scientists claimed the two species had never even met. Ancient human species, including Neanderthals, Denisovans and Homo sapiens mated with each other, resulting in an incredibly complex family tree. The Denisovans share up to 8 percent of their genome with a “super achaic” and totally unknown species that dates back around 1 million years. The results conflict with the theory that modern humans arose completely from one “out of Africa” migration more than 60,000 years ago that spread worldwide without mating with other early humans. About 1.5 to 2.1 percent of the DNA of all people with European ancestry can be traced to Neanderthals. Proportions of Neanderthal DNA are higher among Asians and Native Americans, who also have small percentages of Denisovan DNA. 6 percent of the genome of Australian Aborigines and indigenous Papua New Guineans belong to the Denisovan species. The Han Chinese, native to East Asia, and the Dai people of southern China are related to both Neanderthals and Denisovans. Some indigenous people from Brazil, such as the Karitiana, are not only related to both Neanderthals and Denisovans, but they show relatively high genetic contributions from the Denisovans. Only 96 genes responsible for making proteins in cells are different between modern humans and Neanderthals. Intriguingly, some of the gene differences involve ones involved in both immune responses and the development of brain cells in people. Somewhere within these 96 genes may lay the answer to why Neanderthals and Denisovans became extinct. And least consequential of all, the Neanderthal woman’s parents were related, possibly half-siblings, or an uncle and niece. As evolutionary biologist Mattias Jakobsson stated, the incest finding “is more of an anecdote”. The results from one individual cannot be applied to an entire species, in the same way that the recent discovery of an incest family in Australia does not apply to the whole of the human race.


http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/entire-neanderthal-genome-finally-mapped-amazing-results-001138

Might this have any significance or correlate with what the UB teaches on the origin and progression of the races of our planet?


pj

 

[Caino]

The Paradise Creator Sons​

(234.1) 21:0.1 THE Creator Sons are the makers and rulers of the local universes of time and space. These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin, embodying the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son. But each Creator Son is different from every other; each is unique in nature as well as in personality; each is the “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of his origin.

(234.2) 21:0.2 In the vast work of organizing, evolving, and perfecting a local universe, these high Sons always enjoy the sustaining approval of the Universal Father. The relationship of the Creator Sons with their Paradise Father is touching and superlative. No doubt the profound affection of the Deity parents for their divine progeny is the wellspring of that beautiful and well-nigh divine love which even mortal parents bear their children.....

Origin and Nature of Creator Sons​

(234.6) 21:1.1 When the fullness of absolute spiritual ideation in the Eternal Son encounters the fullness of absolute personality concept in the Universal Father, when such a creative union is finally and fully attained, when such absolute identity of spirit and such infinite oneness of personality concept occur, then, right then and there, without the loss of anything of personality or prerogative by either of the infinite Deities, there flashes into full-fledged being a new and original Creator Son, the only-begotten Son of the perfect ideal and the powerful idea whose union produces this new creator personality of power and perfection.

(235.1) 21:1.2 Each Creator Son is the only-begotten and only-begettable offspring of the perfect union of the original concepts of the two infinite and eternal and perfect minds of the ever-existent Creators of the universe of universes. There never can be another such Son because each Creator Son is the unqualified, finished, and final expression and embodiment of all of every phase of every feature of every possibility of every divine reality that could, throughout all eternity, ever be found in, expressed by, or evolved from, those divine creative potentials which united to bring this Michael Son into existence. Each Creator Son is the absolute of the united deity concepts which constitute his divine origin.

(235.2) 21:1.3 The divine natures of these Creator Sons are, in principle, derived equally from the attributes of both Paradise parents. All partake of the fullness of the divine nature of the Universal Father and of the creative prerogatives of the Eternal Son, but as we observe the practical outworking of the Michael functions in the universes, we discern apparent differences. Some Creator Sons appear to be more like God the Father; others more like God the Son. For example: The trend of administration in the universe of Nebadon suggests that its Creator and ruling Son is one whose nature and character more resemble that of the Eternal Mother Son. It should be further stated that some universes are presided over by Paradise Michaels who appear equally to resemble God the Father and God the Son. And these observations are in no sense implied criticisms; they are simply a recording of fact.....

The Creators of Local Universes​

(235.4) 21:2.1 The Paradise Sons of the primary order are the designers, creators, builders, and administrators of their respective domains, the local universes of time and space, the basic creative units of the seven evolutionary superuniverses. A Creator Son is permitted to choose the space site of his future cosmic activity, but before he may begin even the physical organization of his universe, he must spend a long period of observation devoted to the study of the efforts of his older brothers in various creations located in the superuniverse of his projected action. And prior to all this, the Michael Son will have completed his long and unique experience of Paradise observation and Havona training.

(235.5) 21:2.2 When a Creator Son departs from Paradise to embark upon the adventure of universe making, to become the head — virtually the God — of the local universe of his own organization, then, for the first time, he finds himself in intimate contact with, and in many respects dependent upon, the Third Source and Center. The Infinite Spirit, though abiding with the Father and the Son at the center of all things, is destined to function as the actual and effective helper of each Creator Son. Therefore is each Creator Son accompanied by a Creative Daughter of the Infinite Spirit, that being who is destined to become the Divine Minister, the Mother Spirit of the new local universe.

(236.1) 21:2.3 The departure of a Michael Son on this occasion forever liberates his creator prerogatives from the Paradise Sources and Centers, subject only to certain limitations inherent in the pre-existence of these Sources and Centers and to certain other antecedent powers and presences. Among these limitations to the otherwise all-powerful creator prerogatives of a local universe Father are the following:

(236.2) 21:2.4 1. Energy-matter is dominated by the Infinite Spirit. Before any new forms of things, great or small, may be created, before any new transformations of energy-matter may be attempted, a Creator Son must secure the consent and working co-operation of the Infinite Spirit.

(236.3) 21:2.5 2. Creature designs and types are controlled by the Eternal Son. Before a Creator Son may engage in the creation of any new type of being, any new design of creature, he must secure the consent of the Eternal and Original Mother Son.

(236.4) 21:2.6 3. Personality is designed and bestowed by the Universal Father.....



Caino

 

[Caino]

Might this have any significance or correlate with what the UB teaches on the origin and progression of the races of our planet?


pj

Yes, it validates what the UB teaches, facts not known by science at the time of the revelation.

Study aids http://www.squarecircles.com/studyaids/studyaids.htm

Caino

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The Paradise Creator Sons​

(234.1) 21:0.1 THE Creator Sons are the makers and rulers of the local universes of time and space. These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin, embodying the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son. But each Creator Son is different from every other; each is unique in nature as well as in personality; each is the “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of his origin.

(234.2) 21:0.2 In the vast work of organizing, evolving, and perfecting a local universe, these high Sons always enjoy the sustaining approval of the Universal Father. The relationship of the Creator Sons with their Paradise Father is touching and superlative. No doubt the profound affection of the Deity parents for their divine progeny is the wellspring of that beautiful and well-nigh divine love which even mortal parents bear their children.....

Origin and Nature of Creator Sons​

(234.6) 21:1.1 When the fullness of absolute spiritual ideation in the Eternal Son encounters the fullness of absolute personality concept in the Universal Father, when such a creative union is finally and fully attained, when such absolute identity of spirit and such infinite oneness of personality concept occur, then, right then and there, without the loss of anything of personality or prerogative by either of the infinite Deities, there flashes into full-fledged being a new and original Creator Son, the only-begotten Son of the perfect ideal and the powerful idea whose union produces this new creator personality of power and perfection.

(235.1) 21:1.2 Each Creator Son is the only-begotten and only-begettable offspring of the perfect union of the original concepts of the two infinite and eternal and perfect minds of the ever-existent Creators of the universe of universes. There never can be another such Son because each Creator Son is the unqualified, finished, and final expression and embodiment of all of every phase of every feature of every possibility of every divine reality that could, throughout all eternity, ever be found in, expressed by, or evolved from, those divine creative potentials which united to bring this Michael Son into existence. Each Creator Son is the absolute of the united deity concepts which constitute his divine origin.

(235.2) 21:1.3 The divine natures of these Creator Sons are, in principle, derived equally from the attributes of both Paradise parents. All partake of the fullness of the divine nature of the Universal Father and of the creative prerogatives of the Eternal Son, but as we observe the practical outworking of the Michael functions in the universes, we discern apparent differences. Some Creator Sons appear to be more like God the Father; others more like God the Son. For example: The trend of administration in the universe of Nebadon suggests that its Creator and ruling Son is one whose nature and character more resemble that of the Eternal Mother Son. It should be further stated that some universes are presided over by Paradise Michaels who appear equally to resemble God the Father and God the Son. And these observations are in no sense implied criticisms; they are simply a recording of fact.....

The Creators of Local Universes​

(235.4) 21:2.1 The Paradise Sons of the primary order are the designers, creators, builders, and administrators of their respective domains, the local universes of time and space, the basic creative units of the seven evolutionary superuniverses. A Creator Son is permitted to choose the space site of his future cosmic activity, but before he may begin even the physical organization of his universe, he must spend a long period of observation devoted to the study of the efforts of his older brothers in various creations located in the superuniverse of his projected action. And prior to all this, the Michael Son will have completed his long and unique experience of Paradise observation and Havona training.

(235.5) 21:2.2 When a Creator Son departs from Paradise to embark upon the adventure of universe making, to become the head — virtually the God — of the local universe of his own organization, then, for the first time, he finds himself in intimate contact with, and in many respects dependent upon, the Third Source and Center. The Infinite Spirit, though abiding with the Father and the Son at the center of all things, is destined to function as the actual and effective helper of each Creator Son. Therefore is each Creator Son accompanied by a Creative Daughter of the Infinite Spirit, that being who is destined to become the Divine Minister, the Mother Spirit of the new local universe.

(236.1) 21:2.3 The departure of a Michael Son on this occasion forever liberates his creator prerogatives from the Paradise Sources and Centers, subject only to certain limitations inherent in the pre-existence of these Sources and Centers and to certain other antecedent powers and presences. Among these limitations to the otherwise all-powerful creator prerogatives of a local universe Father are the following:

(236.2) 21:2.4 1. Energy-matter is dominated by the Infinite Spirit. Before any new forms of things, great or small, may be created, before any new transformations of energy-matter may be attempted, a Creator Son must secure the consent and working co-operation of the Infinite Spirit.

(236.3) 21:2.5 2. Creature designs and types are controlled by the Eternal Son. Before a Creator Son may engage in the creation of any new type of being, any new design of creature, he must secure the consent of the Eternal and Original Mother Son.

(236.4) 21:2.6 3. Personality is designed and bestowed by the Universal Father.....



Caino

Again, L.Ron Hubbard and Rod Serling would be proud of these rantings! All a bunch of "Twilight Zone" stuff!

 

[Caino]

Again, L.Ron Hubbard and Rod Serling would be proud of these rantings! All a bunch of "Twilight Zone" stuff!

That's what the religious experts said about Jesus, it is no small wonder that Jesus chose as his ambassadors 12 common men instead of the indoctrinated.


Caino

 

[freelight]

from twilight to hilight...........

from twilight to hilight...........

Again, L.Ron Hubbard and Rod Serling would be proud of these rantings! All a bunch of "Twilight Zone" stuff!

Fortunately those interested in the Urantia Papers have this entire thread as a collective resource for free investigation into the cosmic theology of this particular group of revelators.

We've covered descriptions on the 'Creator Sons', here and elsewhere, and their majesty and glory is that of their Paradise Father, since a 'Son' is a direct offspring of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son within the Paradise Trinity, each divine Son unique and special in their own right.

An appropriate study of the cosmogony of the Papers is essential, and its 'Christology'...before just passing it off as 'religious fiction', or sci-fi mythology, since plenty of story-embellishments(literary devices) in the Bible and other religious writings could equally be considered such. What holds are the universal principles, concepts, allegories and archetypes of knowledge shared, in their own 'terms' and 'context', and how they "relate" therein. This is key.

Again, the glory of Christ-Michael, our Creator -Son (the Lord Jesus) who is the sovereign planetary Prince and Lord of this world, ever holds in the context of UB theology, and only differs in that Jesus is one of many Creator-Sons, who are the Creators of the local universes and worlds within the space-domains of the 7 super-universes of cosmic creation (which are evolving towards the perfection of the Supreme and the Ultimate). UB theology has a more sophisticated and comprehensive cosmogony than what the Bible can afford, due to its limited knowledge and cult-ural context.

As far as 'twilight' zones go,....the history of traditional-orthodox Christianity and her various creeds, dogmas, wars, church-councils and 'cahoots' within the socio-political power constructs of her earlier evolutions, left ample 'twilight' periods where 'light' and 'shadow' wove their own blends of curious inventions.



pj

 

[LuisMarco]

Again, L.Ron Hubbard and Rod Serling would be proud of these rantings! All a bunch of "Twilight Zone" stuff!

You & others will perhaps be more than interested to know that the 2 best books on the origins of the Urantia Revelation are online & for free:

• The Birth of a Divine Revelation--The Origin of The Urantia Papers by Ernest P. Moyer
• A History of The Urantia Papers by Larry Mullins

.Luis Marco., Mexico City

 

[Caino]

You & others will perhaps be more than interested to know that the 2 best books on the origins of the Urantia Revelation are online & for free:

• The Birth of a Divine Revelation--The Origin of The Urantia Papers by Ernest P. Moyer
• A History of The Urantia Papers by Larry Mullins

.Luis Marco., Mexico City

Yes, excellent books! Thanks


Caino

 

[Charity]

do you think reading every book, that other people;s reality helps, its like reading several maps. I wish people would understand the power a book, it takes many years to obtain wisdom, that of, from many events, now, one must be very wise to understand three days of ready can create beasts of a distance, beginning to end.
we may live the life of programed, or the life of programmer.

 

[Caino]

(1861.8) 170:3.1 "Jesus was always trying to impress upon his apostles and disciples that they must acquire, by faith, a righteousness which would exceed the righteousness of slavish works which some of the scribes and Pharisees paraded so vaingloriously before the world.

(1861.9) 170:3.2 Though Jesus taught that faith, simple childlike belief, is the key to the door of the kingdom, he also taught that, having entered the door, there are the progressive steps of righteousness which every believing child must ascend in order to grow up to the full stature of the robust sons of God.

(1861.10) 170:3.3 It is in the consideration of the technique of receiving God’s forgiveness that the attainment of the righteousness of the kingdom is revealed. Faith is the price you pay for entrance into the family of God; but forgiveness is the act of God which accepts your faith as the price of admission. And the reception of the forgiveness of God by a kingdom believer involves a definite and actual experience and consists in the following four steps, the kingdom steps of inner righteousness:

(1862.1) 170:3.4 1. God’s forgiveness is made actually available and is personally experienced by man just in so far as he forgives his fellows.

(1862.2) 170:3.5 2. Man will not truly forgive his fellows unless he loves them as himself.

(1862.3) 170:3.6 3. To thus love your neighbor as yourself is the highest ethics.

(1862.4) 170:3.7 4. Moral conduct, true righteousness, becomes, then, the natural result of such love.

(1862.5) 170:3.8 It therefore is evident that the true and inner religion of the kingdom unfailingly and increasingly tends to manifest itself in practical avenues of social service. Jesus taught a living religion that impelled its believers to engage in the doing of loving service. But Jesus did not put ethics in the place of religion. He taught religion as a cause and ethics as a result."


Caino

 

[Caino]

do you think reading every book, that other people;s reality helps, its like reading several maps. I wish people would understand the power a book, it takes many years to obtain wisdom, that of, from many events, now, one must be very wise to understand three days of ready can create beasts of a distance, beginning to end.
we may live the life of programed, or the life of programmer.

Revelation is like a better, more detailed map. It fixes the mess made by people after the last revelation.

We recommend the UB to people who are searching for truth because we think they might like it.

The old maps have us turning into Crabby Creek.....but there's no turn.

Caino

 

[Charity]

Revelation is like a better, more detailed map. It fixes the mess made by people after the last revelation.

We recommend the UB to people who are searching for truth because we think they might like it.

The old maps have us turning into Crabby Creek.....but there's no turn.

Caino

ya know, i finally found the way to craby creek. LOL, the GPS WAS BACK TO FROUNT. Places do exist, but lets say, some are just desiring to keep the treasure under hand....

 

[Caino]

ya know, i finally found the way to craby creek. LOL, the GPS WAS BACK TO FROUNT. Places do exist, but lets say, some are just desiring to keep the treasure under hand....

:bow:

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

(1861.8) 170:3.1 "Jesus was always trying to impress upon his apostles and disciples that they must acquire, by faith, a righteousness which would exceed the righteousness of slavish works which some of the scribes and Pharisees paraded so vaingloriously before the world.

(1861.9) 170:3.2 Though Jesus taught that faith, simple childlike belief, is the key to the door of the kingdom, he also taught that, having entered the door, there are the progressive steps of righteousness which every believing child must ascend in order to grow up to the full stature of the robust sons of God.

(1861.10) 170:3.3 It is in the consideration of the technique of receiving God’s forgiveness that the attainment of the righteousness of the kingdom is revealed. Faith is the price you pay for entrance into the family of God; but forgiveness is the act of God which accepts your faith as the price of admission. And the reception of the forgiveness of God by a kingdom believer involves a definite and actual experience and consists in the following four steps, the kingdom steps of inner righteousness:

(1862.1) 170:3.4 1. God’s forgiveness is made actually available and is personally experienced by man just in so far as he forgives his fellows.

(1862.2) 170:3.5 2. Man will not truly forgive his fellows unless he loves them as himself.

(1862.3) 170:3.6 3. To thus love your neighbor as yourself is the highest ethics.

(1862.4) 170:3.7 4. Moral conduct, true righteousness, becomes, then, the natural result of such love.

(1862.5) 170:3.8 It therefore is evident that the true and inner religion of the kingdom unfailingly and increasingly tends to manifest itself in practical avenues of social service. Jesus taught a living religion that impelled its believers to engage in the doing of loving service. But Jesus did not put ethics in the place of religion. He taught religion as a cause and ethics as a result."


Caino

Cultist propaganda! Not worth the time it takes to read it!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Revelation is like a better, more detailed map. It fixes the mess made by people after the last revelation.

We recommend the UB to people who are searching for truth because we think they might like it.

The old maps have us turning into Crabby Creek.....but there's no turn.

Caino

Gibberish, plain and simple!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You & others will perhaps be more than interested to know that the 2 best books on the origins of the Urantia Revelation are online & for free:

• The Birth of a Divine Revelation--The Origin of The Urantia Papers by Ernest P. Moyer
• A History of The Urantia Papers by Larry Mullins

.Luis Marco., Mexico City

Not interested in false cultist belief! Sorry Luis!

 

[Zeke]

But the christian excepts religious facts as being historically factual, then attacks others belief as being dishonest and frauds not worthy of their time,:juggle: the facts to fit your fairytale if you must but don't pretend your religion has anything but a leap of emotional faith to back it up.