The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[freelight]

eating flesh and blood?

eating flesh and blood?

One thing He commanded is to drink His Blood and eat His Flesh.

153:3.2 One of the visiting Pharisees, mounting a lampstand, shouted out this question: “You tell us that you are the bread of life. How can you give us your flesh to eat or your blood to drink? What avail is your teaching if it cannot be carried out?” And Jesus answered this question, saying: “I did not teach you that my flesh is the bread of life nor that my blood is the water thereof. But I did say that my life in the flesh is a bestowal of the bread of heaven. The fact of the Word of God bestowed in the flesh and the phenomenon of the Son of Man subject to the will of God, constitute a reality of experience which is equivalent to the divine sustenance. You cannot eat my flesh nor can you drink my blood, but you can become one in spirit with me even as I am one in spirit with the Father. You can be nourished by the eternal word of God, which is indeed the bread of life, and which has been bestowed in the likeness of mortal flesh; and you can be watered in soul by the divine spirit, which is truly the water of life. The Father has sent me into the world to show how he desires to indwell and direct all men; and I have so lived this life in the flesh as to inspire all men likewise ever to seek to know and do the will of the indwelling heavenly Father.”



pj

 

[Aimiel]

Remember such is symbolic, to be 'translated' spiritually.

How do you translate: "Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you," to: "You don't have to eat my flesh and drink my blood?"

I am very much alive and well. I live, move and have my being in 'God'. 'God' is the very life, vitality and consciousness permeating my being.

No, spiritually you're dead and when you suffer death you will face judgment and Christ's Blood will testify against you dripping from your own feet.

We already showed that there is atonement without having to offer up a blood-sacrifice.

No, you've shown ignorance of God's Words.

The blood of Jesus is symbolic, and the remembrance meal or 'Lord's Supper' is one reflecting the new life of the Spirit we share with Jesus and the Spirit of truth that was poured out. Bread and wine are elements of nourishment with life-giving qualities translated on a spiritual level.

That isn't what Jesus said, it's what you've decided to believe since it fits your theology.

Remember,...as we've shared...the Lord's Supper was a memorial feast pointing to the kingdom of God where all share the 'bread' and 'wine' of spiritual communion with the Master.

ALL will not share it. Only those He has redeemed by His Blood.

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

If you are not redeemed by His Blood you have NO LIFE in you. None. You're dead, according to Jesus.

Any lover of Jesus would be glad of a revelation sharing the goodnews of Jesus regarding this kingdom on our world. Its central theme is 'The Fatherhood of God and brotherhood of Man', fulfilled in loving service, faith and the advancement of true religious principles and values.

No, the brotherhood of Christians is what is central. Jesus taught that there is NOTHING good in man. Unless you're redeemed by His Blood and have His Spirit in you. Without His Blood His Spirit doesn't want anything to do with you. That's why you have familiar spirits: you have rejected The Holy Spirit.

 

[Aimiel]

153:3.2

Pure fiction, just like ALL of your Urantia book.

 

[freelight]

Personality....in the cosmos........

Personality....in the cosmos........

Pure fiction, just like ALL of your Urantia book.

Its not 'my' UB....its one tome of revealed information or revelation that any spiritualist can draw from in his religious studies and spiritual exploration, letting the content speak for itself - one wonderful contribution in the papers is on the subject of 'personality'....as far as 'God' being the original Personality from which all other personalities originate and relate to. While higher and more transcendent aspects of 'God' may be said to be 'pre-personal', 'superpersonal' or 'non-personal'.....God the Father still relates to us on personal levels of relationship...as a divine Personality.

Anything shared in writing, stands on its own terms and principles, coordinated by the values and meanings described therein. The UB is an expanded revelation of the nature, character and reality of 'God', from one particular collective, expanding on human concept-terms, and adding new terms and enhanced meanings where necessary during the time of transmission.


1:2.1 God is primal reality in the spirit world; God is the source of truth in the mind spheres; God overshadows all throughout the material realms. To all created intelligences God is a personality, and to the universe of universes he is the First Source and Center of eternal reality. God is neither manlike nor machinelike. The First Father is universal spirit, eternal truth, infinite reality, and father personality.

1:2.2 The eternal God is infinitely more than reality idealized or the universe personalized. God is not simply the supreme desire of man, the mortal quest objectified. Neither is God merely a concept, the power-potential of righteousness. The Universal Father is not a synonym for nature, neither is he natural law personified. God is a transcendent reality, not merely man’s traditional concept of supreme values. God is not a psychological focalization of spiritual meanings, neither is he “the noblest work of man.” God may be any or all of these concepts in the minds of men, but he is more. He is a saving person and a loving Father to all who enjoy spiritual peace on earth, and who crave to experience personality survival in death.

1:2.7 The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

1:4.7 As a reality in human spiritual experience God is not a mystery. But when an attempt is made to make plain the realities of the spirit world to the physical minds of the material order, mystery appears: mysteries so subtle and so profound that only the faith-grasp of the God-knowing mortal can achieve the philosophic miracle of the recognition of the Infinite by the finite, the discernment of the eternal God by the evolving mortals of the material worlds of time and space.

1:5.2 God is much more than a personality as personality is understood by the human mind; he is even far more than any possible concept of a superpersonality. But it is utterly futile to discuss such incomprehensible concepts of divine personality with the minds of material creatures whose maximum concept of the reality of being consists in the idea and ideal of personality. The material creature’s highest possible concept of the Universal Creator is embraced within the spiritual ideals of the exalted idea of divine personality. Therefore, although you may know that God must be much more than the human conception of personality, you equally well know that the Universal Father cannot possibly be anything less than an eternal, infinite, true, good, and beautiful personality.

1:5.8 Notwithstanding that God is an eternal power, a majestic presence, a transcendent ideal, and a glorious spirit, though he is all these and infinitely more, nonetheless, he is truly and everlastingly a perfect Creator personality, a person who can “know and be known,” who can “love and be loved,” and one who can befriend us; while you can be known, as other humans have been known, as the friend of God. He is a real spirit and a spiritual reality.

1:7.5 Ultimate universe reality cannot be grasped by mathematics, logic, or philosophy, only by personal experience in progressive conformity to the divine will of a personal God. Neither science, philosophy, nor theology can validate the personality of God. Only the personal experience of the faith sons of the heavenly Father can effect the actual spiritual realization of the personality of God.


For more on divine personality go here.


UB Fellowship



pj

 

[Aimiel]

It doesn't expand our understanding of God, it mis-directs our thinking through deception. If you could see the spirit behind it, you'd run from it with all your strength.

 

[freelight]

Nothing to fear........

Nothing to fear........

It doesn't expand our understanding of God, it mis-directs our thinking through deception. If you could see the spirit behind it, you'd run from it with all your strength.

It very much expands the knowledge of 'God', the cosmos, the heirarchy of the Sons of God, angels and other cosmic beings, the ascension-plan of evolutionary mortals, the life and teachings of Jesus, etc. (much more beyond the limited scope of the Bible).

There is one Infinite Spirit and Universal MIND behind all that is. Fear and ignorance is unnecessary when one understands this and can draw from various resource-streams of revelation and knowledge. Deity is infinite, omnipresent, all-pervading. 'God' is reality itself, the Absolute (all else existing as the manifestation of 'creation' is a play of space-time relativity, energy, matter, mind, spirit). 'God' is the source of all that is, and all that unfolds in the panorama of space and time. Since 'God' is LOVE,....there is no reason for fear or ignorance.


5:5.11 God-consciousness, as it is experienced by an evolving mortal of the realms, must consist of three varying factors, three differential levels of reality realization. There is first the mind consciousness—the comprehension of the idea of God. Then follows the soul consciousness—the realization of the ideal of God. Last, dawns the spirit consciousness—the realization of the spirit reality of God. By the unification of these factors of the divine realization, no matter how incomplete, the mortal personality at all times overspreads all conscious levels with a realization of the personality of God.

5:5.12 The experience of God-consciousness remains the same from generation to generation, but with each advancing epoch in human knowledge the philosophic concept and the theologic definitions of God must change. God-knowingness, religious consciousness, is a universe reality, but no matter how valid (real) religious experience is, it must be willing to subject itself to intelligent criticism and reasonable philosophic interpretation; it must not seek to be a thing apart in the totality of human experience.



pj

 

[Aimiel]

Knowing God and making Him known don't require 'new' revelations, except from God... Urantia isn't from God with a capital, "G." They're from a false god and don't have anything to do with The One True God. Religion is man's dealings with God. Christianity is God accepting us as we are and forgiving us through The Blood of The Lamb: Jesus.

 

[Caino]

It very much expands the knowledge of 'God', the cosmos, the heirarchy of the Sons of God, angels and other cosmic beings, the ascension-plan of evolutionary mortals, the life and teachings of Jesus, etc. (much more beyond the limited scope of the Bible).

There is one Infinite Spirit and Universal MIND behind all that is. Fear and ignorance is unnecessary when one understands this and can draw from various resource-streams of revelation and knowledge. Deity is infinite, omnipresent, all-pervading. 'God' is reality itself, the Absolute (all else existing as the manifestation of 'creation' is a play of space-time relativity, energy, matter, mind, spirit). 'God' is the source of all that is, and all that unfolds in the panorama of space and time. Since 'God' is LOVE,....there is no reason for fear or ignorance.


5:5.11 God-consciousness, as it is experienced by an evolving mortal of the realms, must consist of three varying factors, three differential levels of reality realization. There is first the mind consciousness—the comprehension of the idea of God. Then follows the soul consciousness—the realization of the ideal of God. Last, dawns the spirit consciousness—the realization of the spirit reality of God. By the unification of these factors of the divine realization, no matter how incomplete, the mortal personality at all times overspreads all conscious levels with a realization of the personality of God.

5:5.12 The experience of God-consciousness remains the same from generation to generation, but with each advancing epoch in human knowledge the philosophic concept and the theologic definitions of God must change. God-knowingness, religious consciousness, is a universe reality, but no matter how valid (real) religious experience is, it must be willing to subject itself to intelligent criticism and reasonable philosophic interpretation; it must not seek to be a thing apart in the totality of human experience.



pj

Freelight,

Ever notice that these kinds of religious zombies say the same things that the enemies of Jesus said to him? Those who rejected Jesus thought they were doing a service to God, same with the UB.

If one is not born of the spirit they cannot hear the voice of the shepherd. These frightened ones crave religious conformity no matter how inconsistent the doctrines are.

But you are clever to draw out the lunacy for parade.


Caino

 

[Aimiel]

If one is not born of the spirit they cannot hear the voice of the shepherd.

Those of us who know His Voice won't follow the voice of a stranger. Urantia is a stranger to God and to Christians.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

You and Freelight are thieves and robbers, according to Christ, Who is the ONLY door of the sheep.

 

[freelight]

focusing on truth..............

focusing on truth..............

Freelight,

Ever notice that these kinds of religious zombies say the same things that the enemies of Jesus said to him? Those who rejected Jesus thought they were doing a service to God, same with the UB.

If one is not born of the spirit they cannot hear the voice of the shepherd. These frightened ones crave religious conformity no matter how inconsistent the doctrines are.

But you are clever to draw out the lunacy for parade.


Caino

Hi Caino,

It is peculiar that one is opposed to such a revolutionary and positive message or 'revelation', that exands and glorifies the knowledge of 'God' to greater dimensions and depths. The knowledge of 'God' as the prophet foretold is in these last days filling the earth, even as the waters cover the sea ('God' will use whatever channels He sees fit to dispense this great knowledge). The Great Spirit unfolds itself in many ways, since IT is omnipresent.

Fear and ignorance are the greatest barriers to Light, so its time to let those go....and embrace the 'God' that is Light. This very 'light' at its core-essence indwells our own soul as what the revelators call the 'thought adjuster' or 'spirit-monitor'. It is a fragment of the Universal Father Himself ( as pure spirit). Imagine that, the very presence of the Infinite 'God' indwelling our very soul.

1:2.4 The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

1:2.5 Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the Universal Father.


Glory to God...............


pj

 

[Caino]

Hi Caino,

It is peculiar that one is opposed to such a revolutionary and positive message or 'revelation', that exands and glorifies the knowledge of 'God' to greater dimensions and depths. The knowledge of 'God' as the prophet foretold is in these last days filling the earth, even as the waters cover the sea ('God' will use whatever channels He sees fit to dispense this great knowledge). The Great Spirit unfolds itself in many ways, since IT is omnipresent.

Fear and ignorance are the greatest barriers to Light, so its time to let those go....and embrace the 'God' that is Light. This very 'light' at its core-essence indwells our own soul as what the revelators call the 'thought adjuster' or 'spirit-monitor'. It is a fragment of the Universal Father Himself ( as pure spirit). Imagine that, the very presence of the Infinite 'God' indwelling our very soul.

1:2.4 The existence of God can never be proved by scientific experiment or by the pure reason of logical deduction. God can be realized only in the realms of human experience; nevertheless, the true concept of the reality of God is reasonable to logic, plausible to philosophy, essential to religion, and indispensable to any hope of personality survival.

1:2.5 Those who know God have experienced the fact of his presence; such God-knowing mortals hold in their personal experience the only positive proof of the existence of the living God which one human being can offer to another. The existence of God is utterly beyond all possibility of demonstration except for the contact between the God-consciousness of the human mind and the God-presence of the Thought Adjuster that indwells the mortal intellect and is bestowed upon man as the free gift of the Universal Father.


Glory to God...............


pj

Hi Freelight,

I gather that the basis for doctrine formation, with all the imaginary ghost and goblins used to sustain it, :angrymob: represents mans attempt to control God as opposed to the uncertainties of Living faith, being controlled by God.

(2083.2) 195:9.6 Primitive man lived a life of superstitious bondage to religious fear. Modern, civilized men dread the thought of falling under the dominance of strong religious convictions. Thinking man has always feared to be held by a religion. When a strong and moving religion threatens to dominate him, he invariably tries to rationalize, traditionalize, and institutionalize it, thereby hoping to gain control of it. By such procedure, even a revealed religion becomes man-made and man-dominated. Modern men and women of intelligence evade the religion of Jesus because of their fears of what it will do to them — and with them. And all such fears are well founded. The religion of Jesus does, indeed, dominate and transform its believers, demanding that men dedicate their lives to seeking for a knowledge of the will of the Father in heaven and requiring that the energies of living be consecrated to the unselfish service of the brotherhood of man.


* first the Roman pagan Church decided what the cannon would be 400 years after Jesus left :readthis:. Some formerly inspired books were kept and others banned! :spam:

* at the same time the church established the idea of it's own infallibility, :Commie: dissention was punishable by defrocking, torture and death.:sibbie:

* it wasn't until the late 1800's that people dared openly question the church :sherlock: without the fear of reprisals. :execute:


Caino

 

[freelight]

spiritual reaction

spiritual reaction

Hi Freelight,

I gather that the basis for doctrine formation, with all the imaginary ghost and goblins used to sustain it, :angrymob: represents mans attempt to control God as opposed to the uncertainties of Living faith, being controlled by God.

Interesting it is, that a law of faith as it were (as Paul terms it) underlies a certain principle at work in the soul, coordinated by a divine intelligence, call it what you will. It would be folly to try to control 'God', but co-operating with his program and laws is good for starters

The 'uncertainty factor' of 'faith' ultimately surrenders to 'trust'.

* first the Roman pagan Church decided what the cannon would be 400 years after Jesus left :readthis:. Some formerly inspired books were kept and others banned! :spam:

Selective choosing.

* at the same time the church established the idea of it's own infallibility, :Commie: dissention was punishable by defrocking, torture and death.:sibbie:

Ouch.

* it wasn't until the late 1800's that people dared openly question the church :sherlock: without the fear of reprisals. :execute:

Reformations are sometimes inevitable......


Reflection for the day:

100:2.1 Spiritual development depends, first, on the maintenance of a living spiritual connection with true spiritual forces and, second, on the continuous bearing of spiritual fruit: yielding the ministry to one’s fellows of that which has been received from one’s spiritual benefactors. Spiritual progress is predicated on intellectual recognition of spiritual poverty coupled with the self-consciousness of perfection-hunger, the desire to know God and be like him, the wholehearted purpose to do the will of the Father in heaven.

100:2.2 Spiritual growth is first an awakening to needs, next a discernment of meanings, and then a discovery of values. The evidence of true spiritual development consists in the exhibition of a human personality motivated by love, activated by unselfish ministry, and dominated by the wholehearted worship of the perfection ideals of divinity. And this entire experience constitutes the reality of religion as contrasted with mere theological beliefs.

100:2.3 Religion can progress to that level of experience whereon it becomes an enlightened and wise technique of spiritual reaction to the universe.







pj

 

[Caino]

Just finished reading "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth"

http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B00BRUQ7ZY

Aslan misses the mark in many ways but he does point out a couple of glaring truths about Christianity and the Jewish Messiah; Christianity is basically what Paul thought, and Jesus wasn't the Jewish Messiah.


(2091.10) 196:2.1 Some day a reformation in the Christian church may strike deep enough to get back to the unadulterated religious teachings of Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. You may preach a religion about Jesus, but, perforce, you must live the religion of Jesus. In the enthusiasm of Pentecost, Peter unintentionally inaugurated a new religion, the religion of the risen and glorified Christ. The Apostle Paul later on transformed this new gospel into Christianity, a religion embodying his own theologic views and portraying his own personal experience with the Jesus of the Damascus road. The gospel of the kingdom is founded on the personal religious experience of the Jesus of Galilee; Christianity is founded almost exclusively on the personal religious experience of the Apostle Paul. Almost the whole of the New Testament is devoted, not to the portrayal of the significant and inspiring religious life of Jesus, but to a discussion of Paul’s religious experience and to a portrayal of his personal religious convictions. The only notable exceptions to this statement, aside from certain parts of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are the Book of Hebrews and the Epistle of James. Even Peter, in his writing, only once reverted to the personal religious life of his Master. The New Testament is a superb Christian document, but it is only meagerly Jesusonian.


Caino

 

[Aimiel]

When Jesus returns for His bride and 'the sign of the coming of The Son of Man' appears in the sky (I believe it will be a huge cross, visible all over the earth) every single Jew will see it and know that Jesus IS The Jewish Messiah, and a nation will be saved in a day.

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[freelight]

the return of Jesus......

the return of Jesus......

When Jesus returns for His bride and 'the sign of the coming of The Son of Man' appears in the sky (I believe it will be a huge cross, visible all over the earth) every single Jew will see it and know that Jesus IS The Jewish Messiah, and a nation will be saved in a day.

The Jews do not esteem the symbol of the 'cross' (and the redemption-theololgy Chrsitians invest in it) so not sure how this 'sign' would convert them to Christianity. Jesus has yet to fulfill most if not all the requirements to qualify as the Jewish Messiah.

Jewish Messiah Wanted

Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

I guess we'll wait and see - the UB btw does acknowledge the return of Christ-Michael, our Creator-Son at some future time, and possibly other incarnations of higher Sons of God serving in teaching or magisterial roles during certain dispensations. Jesus did mention some kind of 'return'. Will look up some UB references on this.

The UB Fellowship



pj

 

[Caino]

Freelight,

Hello :guitar: Christ Michael did indeed promises a return visit to the world of his incarnation, but as we know, the kingdom is spiritual, for all the earth, even for the 10,000,000 worlds of Michaels creation.

When the OT books were rewritten in Babylon, the priestly editors went to the other extreme, they exaggerated their place in history, they became "Gods chosen people" instead of the people predicted to occupy the lands of Palistine and for the purpose of receiving the incarnate Son who would establish a spiritual kingdom, not material.


You might find the new book "Zealot" interesting.


Caino

 

[Aimiel]

The Jews do not esteem the symbol of the 'cross' (and the redemption-theololgy Chrsitians invest in it) so not sure how this 'sign' would convert them to Christianity. Jesus has yet to fulfill most if not all the requirements to qualify as the Jewish Messiah.

When the Jews see millions of true believers snatched off the earth they will know that the cross in the sky means that Jesus is Lord and God.

I guess we'll wait and see - the UB btw does acknowledge the return of Christ-Michael, our Creator-Son at some future time, and possibly other incarnations of higher Sons of God serving in teaching or magisterial roles during certain dispensations. Jesus did mention some kind of 'return'. Will look up some UB references on this.

There is none higher than Jesus. You've read so much garbage you don't know Truth any more.

 

[freelight]

2nd Coming of Jesus

2nd Coming of Jesus

You've read so much garbage you don't know Truth any more.

One man's trash is another man's treasure

From the UB, Jesus says -

176:2.3 In further answer to Peter’s question, Jesus said: “Why do you still look for the Son of Man to sit upon the throne of David and expect that the material dreams of the Jews will be fulfilled? Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this salvation will spread to all peoples. And when the kingdom shall have come to its full fruition, be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father has invested me with all power and authority, continue to follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. Even though I shall thus be present with you in spirit, I also promise that I will sometime return to this world, where I have lived this life in the flesh and achieved the experience of simultaneously revealing God to man and leading man to God. Very soon must I leave you and take up the work the Father has intrusted to my hands, but be of good courage, for I will sometime return. In the meantime, my Spirit of the Truth of a universe shall comfort and guide you.

176:2.4 “You behold me now in weakness and in the flesh, but when I return, it shall be with power and in the spirit. The eye of flesh beholds the Son of Man in the flesh, but only the eye of the spirit will behold the Son of Man glorified by the Father and appearing on earth in his own name.

176:2.5 “But the times of the reappearing of the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come to pass, the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal, or else the Son of Man will return to adjudge the age.


- Paper 176 Tuesday evening on Mount Olivet


From here the promise of Jesus returning is clear, and also another dispensational bestowal (another high Son of God incarnating to serve on earth) to prepare her inhabitants for his coming.

Understanding Christian Fundamentalism (from a Urantia Reader perspective)



pj

 

[Aimiel]

The UB is about Jebus, a false Christ. This Jebus in the UB has NOTHING to do with Christ, Who is The Only Begotten of The Father. You're following a demon, not Christ.



And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

You need to read The Holy Scriptures, because the ONLY Truth about God is in Them. It isn't in Urantia, because the UB is NOT from God, it is from beneath.

 

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Look to the essence, values and meanings......

Look to the essence, values and meanings......

The UB is about Jebus, a false Christ. This Jebus in the UB has NOTHING to do with Christ, Who is The Only Begotten of The Father. You're following a demon, not Christ.

The UB's account of Jesus and his teachings does verify much of the NT gospel accounts, but also reveals some info. is not accurate due to various interpolations. Others Jesus teachings on the kingdom of heaven are spot on, for such is a spiritual kingdom and community, founded in the brotherhood of men, under the Fatherhood of God, since we are one spiritual family.

I don't know of any 'jebus', which is your own creation.

You need to read The Holy Scriptures, because the ONLY Truth about God is in Them. It isn't in Urantia, because the UB is NOT from God, it is from beneath.

If you want to be metaphysically correct.....All things are from God - since 'God' is the only Presence, Power and Potentialty from which all creation springs. There is no 'other'. There is only 'God'.

However in this dualistic world of multiplicity and forms, arises the perception of plurality and distinctions, opposites, polarity, constrast, etc. This conditional realm of existence is subject to various distortions,....naturally, since its interwoven in a space-time interface, of seeming difference. In any case,....the UB is a tome of information based on a founding cosmology, base of terms and relational-context that any intelligent person can comprehend and study, if they are so inclined or interested. It's knowledge or wisdom exists by its own inherent structure of both intellectual and spiritual intelligence, reason and logic...concerning the eternal purpose of creation and the eternal progression and immortality-potential of man.

'God' is the Only Original Supreme Being and Intelligence existing. God is all. - all schools or systems of knowledge, religion or philosophy that spring from the primal Monad are more or less distortions of 'God' via language, myth, metaphor and symbols. All forms and relationships are expressions of 'God', the original Mind and Substance. It just so happens that language is subject to limitations, imperfection and translation-variations, so we have various terms and meanings within language in any given school. All words, ideas, concepts are 'symbol-scripts'.

The UB is one conceptual revelation of the cosmos alongside others that attempts to reveal the vast complexity and unity of the universe and divine plan or MIND behind it. Its just information meant to inspire the mind and divine spirit within Man to recognize truth, and how each part relates to the Whole.



pj