"The Just (Justified) Shall Live By Faith, " Romans 1:17

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Robert Pate

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beloved57 said:
Invalid comment out of ignorance!
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Here is another scripture for you.

Now concentrate real hard and try to understand.

"For by grace (God's goodness) are you saved through faith; and not that of yourself: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD" Ephesians 2:8.
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
Here is another scripture for you.

Now concentrate real hard and try to understand.

"For by grace (God's goodness) are you saved through faith; and not that of yourself: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD" Ephesians 2:8.
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You can quote scripture to doomsday, you still teach that heresy of salvation by works, by what a person does!
 
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MWood said:
You wont go to hell because of your sins. All the sins of the world were forgiven by Jesus when He shed His blood on the Cross. If a person goes to hell they will go because of their unbelief. And for no other reason.
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That is not what the Bible says. Reconciliation is offered right now. He is not imputing trespasses right now. He says (through his prophets) the dead will be judged according to their works. And good luck with being the cleanest rat in hell.
 
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Robert Pate said:
The just shall live by faith, because there is no other way for them to live. Those that have been justified by Christ don't need a religion like Calvinism or Catholicism or whatever. They believe that the work of Christ saves them to the uttermost, Hebrews 7:25.

To add anything to the Gospel is to confess that Jesus does NOT save to the uttermost. It is not the Gospel plus religion, it is the Gospel plus nothing. Jesus did not say, "Go into all the world and preach the Gospel to everyone" and then preach Calvinism or Catholicism or whatever. There is no place in the Gospel for religion. "The Just Live By Faith".

There was no religion in the early church. There were some that wanted to put a religious label on the early church, but Paul wanted no part of it, 1 Corinthians 1:10-14. Paul made it clear that his purpose in life was to preach the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 1:17. Paul was not interested in building mighty cathedrals, nor was he interested in taking a poll to see who had been predestinated. Paul spent over 20 years of his life and traveled more than 10,000 miles preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He endured many hardships and sufferings for the sake of the Gospel, 2 Corinthians 11:23-33.

It is the hearing and believing of the Gospel that brings the Holy Spirit, Galatians 3:2. On the day of Pentecost thousands of Jews heard Peter preach the Gospel. They heard the Gospel, they believed the Gospel and they were saved, Acts 2:41."So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, Romans 10:17.Which is the Gospel. The preaching of the Gospel literally turned Jerusalem upside down. The once lowly apostles became powerful preachers of the Gospel. The Pharisees tried to stop them, but it was no use, Acts 4:13-22. They could not help but to speak of the things that they had seen and heard, Acts 4:20.

The Gospel is what gave birth to the New Testament church. Those that were there, many that were foreigners, Acts 2:5, went back to where that had come from and preached what they had seen and heard. This is how the Gospel message was spread all over that part of the world.
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Good post Pate.
 
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God's Truth said:
Nowhere anywhere are we taught we no longer have to obey God.

We are taught that we have a new covenant, a covenant which still requires obedience, and now also faith.

We are taught that the blood of bulls and goats, circumcision, and the observance of special days are NO LONGER NEEDED.

Why are they no longer needed when they were at one time commanded?

They are no longer needed because now Jesus' blood washed us clean.
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You just can't get it right can you? Sit down, you failed again.
 
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beloved57 said:
It doesn't matter when it was, your statement is a lie, men die in their sins, going to hell is the second death, and death is the wages of sin Rom 6:23!
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Give up B57. You're always wrong. Nobody, accept Nanja believes your "Ultra-hyper-Calvinistic fanaticism."
 
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B57, shut off your Laptop, stand up and walk two steps backwards from your desk, then, walk out of the room and stay away from your Laptop the rest of your life.
 
heir

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MWood said:
You wont go to hell because of your sins. All the sins of the world were forgiven by Jesus when He shed His blood on the Cross. If a person goes to hell they will go because of their unbelief. And for no other reason.
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Amen!

2 Thessalonians 2:10 KJV

And welcome to TOL! :up:

If you haven't yet, open a newbie thread and give a little intro about yourself. It'll help others welcome you/get to know you/ or even know you are here :)http://theologyonline.com/forumdisplay.php?65-Newbie-Central
 
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heir

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Robert Pate said:
The gift of God is not imposed on anyone. If it is imposed it is no longer a gift.
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One receives the gift by trusting the Lord believing how that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day!

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


TULIP sniffers: Take notice of the order!

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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heir said:
One receives the gift by trusting the Lord believing how that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day!

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


TULIP sniffers: Take notice of the order!

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
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This is promoting salvation by works, by what a person does!
 
God's Truth

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MWood said:
You wont go to hell because of your sins. All the sins of the world were forgiven by Jesus when He shed His blood on the Cross. If a person goes to hell they will go because of their unbelief. And for no other reason.
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Those who believe can fall into judgement.

1 Corinthians 11:31 But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment.
 
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