I don't expect you to understand anything. The Bible was written by Christians for Christians. I don't think that you are a Christian so you don't understand what the Bible is saying.
The Gospel That Makes All Religions Worthless
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I don't expect you to understand anything. The Bible was written by Christians for Christians. I don't think that you are a Christian so you don't understand what the Bible is saying.
fishrovmen
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I didn't mention what the Bible is saying in my post that you quoted. I was talking about what YOU, the TOL poster whose user name is Robert Pate are saying. Two VERY different things! That's why I used ( ) those things.
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Your problem is not with me, your problem is with the Bible. You try to mix Calvinism and religion in with the Gospel and they don't mix.
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Well, if you never make it back to legend status in your post count, you can be sure to have a legacy on TOL of being by far the best? at evasion and bearing false witness about others to try to draw attention away from your unexplainable doctrines!
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The Bible tells me that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father -John 15:26, and speaks what He hears -John 16:13 I have no problem with that, but you do when you say that the Father sees all as perfect and complete, but the Holy Spirit sees something different.
The Bible tells me that God knows His own - Galatians 4:9 and provides a way of escape from temptation - 1 Corinthians 10:13 and He works miracles - Galatians 3:5 and He knows those who love Him - 1 Corinthians 8:3 and He supplies and multiplies - 2 Corinthians 9:10 and He loves a cheerful giver - 2 Corinthians 9:7, all these verses you don't believe because you say that God only sees Jesus, not individuals and He is not active in this world.
So don't tell me that it's the Bible I have a problem with, seems like it's you that has a problem with the Scriptures.
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Jesus would not be at the right hand of the Father if he had not victoriously defeated sin, death and the devil, Colossians 2:15. You don't believe the Gospel, nor do you believe that Jesus has reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19. I would say that you are an unbeliever.
Good luck with that when you stand before God in the judgment.
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How did you become alienated from God and His enemy almost 2000 years ago?
We were born alienated from God, Psalm 51:5. This is why we need to be born again by the word of God, 1 Peter 1:23 which is the Gospel.
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You said in your opening post that we were reconciled BEFORE we were born, not after.
The reconciliation was provided for everyone before the foundation of the world, but nothing is ours until it is received by faith, so I guess that messes it up for you.
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You didn't state in your opening post that reconciliation was provided, you said that you were reconciled, big difference. So why the need for reconciliation before you were even born?
God has provided every thing necessary for our salvation. All that is required of us is that we have faith in Christ. Faith in Christ requires that you believe that Jesus has atoned for your sins and the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.
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You didn't answer the question, as usual. So how many new threads shall we expect?
I did answer the question. "God has provided everything for our salvation" Your problem is that you don't believe that.
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The question was not "did God provide everything for our salvation". If that was the question, then yes, you answered it. But that was NOT the question. The question was why was reconciliation needed before you were even born? Can you state how and why you were not reconciled to God before you were even born? Did God declare you estranged before He created you? Were you born somewhere else before entering this world, and alienated yourself from God?
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Again, you do the same thing in almost every post. You fail to address what is put before you and then make up lies that have no basis whatsoever. And on top of that, you judge people based on the lies you made up. Doesn't make for good debate!