glorydaz
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Actually, when the KJV came into existence those who heard the word "faith" knew that one of that word's meanings is faithfulness. In the KJV Dictionary we read this as one of the definitions of "faith":
"Faithfulness; fidelity; a strict adherence to duty and fulfillment of promises."
Also, the Greek word pistis is translated "faith" and one of the meanings of that word is:
"fidelity, faithfulness, the character of one who can be relied on" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon).
Yes, but we are talking about what Paul means by the faith of Christ.
Of course you just IGNORED what I said about this verse:
"But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness" (Ro.4:5).
Here the word "his" as in "his faith" is referring to a man who worketh not but believeth.
So anyone with an open mind can see that it is a person's own faith which is counted for righteousness and not the faith of the Lord Jesus.
And that is what we see here:
"But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead" (Ro.4:24).
We receive the imputed righteousness of God when we believe. And that imputed righteousness which comes to us is only made possible by the faithfulness of Christ.
Do you agree that we receive the imputed righteousness of God as a result of our faith?
I didn't ignore it at all. You give half an answer and want me to agree. I can't. You want to ignore the first three chapters of Romans and jump right into Romans 4. You miss something very important when you do that. Our faith is simply NOT ENOUGH to obtain anything unless our faith is based upon the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST. Salvation is not of ourselves, remember? Notice...."He was able also to perform..." Was Abraham's faith alone there? No, it was NOT.
Romans 4:21-22
And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
BECAUSE therein is the righteousness of God revealed. It's why I pointed out this verse ....Romans 1:17KJV. Romans 3:22KJV There are two faiths and ours is not the one that gives us life. Just as it takes two parties to be reconciled, God and man, it takes two faiths to obtain justification and life.