ECT The Eternal Covenant

[SaulToPaul 2]

I know that's more the case in Hebrew, but in this letter notice what happens. After introducing the new covenant, he also tells us that the kingdom is unshakeable, because it is the NHNE. With that established he can call this (new) one eternal. He meant the one that will escort us to that NHNE.

Why weren't they resting?

 

[Interplanner]

Why weren't they resting?

This is not a serious question. The 'rest' meant faith in Christ's Gospel, which actually created a lot of work: risking your life from Judaizers, hiding, relocating, etc. I'm sure you've read the line about 'don't neglect getting together.' Yeah, well, that was a top secret operation if you wanted to stay alive.

You need to spend 10x more obtaining background about what you are talking about before you post.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

This is not a serious question. The 'rest' meant faith in Christ's Gospel, which actually created a lot of work: risking your life from Judaizers, hiding, relocating, etc. I'm sure you've read the line about 'don't neglect getting together.' Yeah, well, that was a top secret operation if you wanted to stay alive.

You need to spend 10x more obtaining background about what you are talking about before you post.

So you don't have an answer. Got it.

 

[Interplanner]

So you don't have an answer. Got it.

Sabbath "stands for" something in Hebrews. So does rest. It is the end of Judaism provided in Christ. Judaism "was only a reminder" of failure and death. Christ was Rest and Hope.

GET THAT!

Too bad you posted. You could have spent that time being built up in the Rest and Hope in Christ.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Sabbath "stands for" something in Hebrews. So does rest. It is the end of Judaism provided in Christ. Judaism "was only a reminder" of failure and death. Christ was Rest and Hope.

GET THAT!

Too bad you posted. You could have spent that time being built up in the Rest and Hope in Christ.

Why weren't they resting?

 

[Ac28]

Of course, the covenant in Hebrews 13:20 doesn't apply to the Gentiles in Paul's Acts epistles - Romans 9:4 . The new covenant has always belonged solely to Israel - Jeremiah 31:31 Hebrews 8:8-10

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

Of course, the covenant in Hebrews 13:20 doesn't apply to the Gentiles in Paul's Acts epistles - Romans 9:4 . The new covenant has always belonged solely to Israel - Jeremiah 31:31 Hebrews 8:8-10

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So simple, yet the "smarter than God" crowd read themselves into it.

 

[Ac28]

The Book of Hebrews has nothing to do with any Gentile believers, past or present.

 

[beloved57]

The Book of Hebrews has nothing to do with any Gentile believers, past or present.

What scripture says that ?

 

[Ac28]

What scripture says that ?

Everything in Hebrews is the truth, for the Hebrews. It is addressed "To the Hebrews." Are you a Hebrew? I'm not. The general subject is that the Messiah of the OT scriptures must suffer as man and that Jesus is the Messiah. All that is interesting but it's certainly not addressed to Gentiles. Anyone can see that by reading it.

God treats Jews and Gentiles differently in the Bible. The people that see this obvious fact are called dispensationalists. The people that don't see it are far inferior, as far as Biblical knowledge is concerned, to the dispensationalists.

 

[DAN P]

Everything in Hebrews is the truth, for the Hebrews. It is addressed "To the Hebrews." Are you a Hebrew? I'm not. The general subject is that the Messiah of the OT scriptures must suffer as man and that Jesus is the Messiah. All that is interesting but it's certainly not addressed to Gentiles. Anyone can see that by reading it.

God treats Jews and Gentiles differently in the Bible. The people that see this obvious fact are called dispensationalists. The people that don't see it are far inferior, as far as Biblical knowledge is concerned, to the dispensationalists.

Hi and I have talked to Acts 28 er , but they say that the first 7 letters that Paul wrote are not to the Body of Christ , and is this correct ??

What say you ??

Or if you want I can start a thread on this subject , will you confirm it , one way or another !!~

dan p

 

[Ac28]

Hi and I have talked to Acts 28 er , but they say that the first 7 letters that Paul wrote are not to the Body of Christ , and is this correct ??

What say you ??

Or if you want I can start a thread on this subject , will you confirm it , one way or another !!~

dan p

Absolutely true. The first mention of the Church which is Christ's Body, where Christ is the Head, occurs in Paul's post-Acts epistles. The context of the "body" in the entire chapter of 1 Cor 12 is, without a doubt. the gifts of the Spirit. These gifts have ceased in Paul's post-Acts epistles. Also, in 1 Cor 12, it speaks of some members being the ears and eyes, which obviously are part of the Head. These things confirm that the Body spoken of in Eph is totally different than that on 1 Cor 12.

In Eph 5:30, it says, For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. We are (right now) His Actual Body in Eph, not parts of His body to symbolically represent the gifts as in 1 Cor.

 

[DAN P]

Absolutely true. The first mention of the Church which is Christ's Body, where Christ is the Head, occurs in Paul's post-Acts epistles. The context of the "body" in the entire chapter of 1 Cor 12 is, without a doubt. the gifts of the Spirit. These gifts have ceased in Paul's post-Acts epistles. Also, in 1 Cor 12, it speaks of some members being the ears and eyes, which obviously are part of the Head. These things confirm that the Body spoken of in Eph is totally different than that on 1 Cor 12.

In Eph 5:30, it says, For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. We are (right now) His Actual Body in Eph, not parts of His body to symbolically represent the gifts as in 1 Cor.

Hi and IF the first 7 letters that Paul wrote , where do you as an Acts 28er , what verse do you use , on how believers are BAPTIZED into the Body of Christ ??

dan p

 

[Interplanner]

Hi and IF the first 7 letters that Paul wrote , where do you as an Acts 28er , what verse do you use , on how believers are BAPTIZED into the Body of Christ ??

dan p

To Ac28:
you're splitting hairs about the eyes and ears. "head" means the plan or direction. The mind. That is what christ is.

 

[beloved57]

Everything in Hebrews is the truth, for the Hebrews. It is addressed "To the Hebrews." Are you a Hebrew? I'm not. The general subject is that the Messiah of the OT scriptures must suffer as man and that Jesus is the Messiah. All that is interesting but it's certainly not addressed to Gentiles. Anyone can see that by reading it.

God treats Jews and Gentiles differently in the Bible. The people that see this obvious fact are called dispensationalists. The people that don't see it are far inferior, as far as Biblical knowledge is concerned, to the dispensationalists.

You didnt answer my question ? What scripture says that ?

 

[Ac28]

You didnt answer my question ? What scripture says that ?

The entire Book of Hebrews.

 

[beloved57]

The entire Book of Hebrews.

Not one scripture in the entire book of hebrews says that !

 

[Interplanner]

Everything in Hebrews is the truth, for the Hebrews. It is addressed "To the Hebrews." Are you a Hebrew? I'm not. The general subject is that the Messiah of the OT scriptures must suffer as man and that Jesus is the Messiah. All that is interesting but it's certainly not addressed to Gentiles. Anyone can see that by reading it.

God treats Jews and Gentiles differently in the Bible. The people that see this obvious fact are called dispensationalists. The people that don't see it are far inferior, as far as Biblical knowledge is concerned, to the dispensationalists.

And there we have it folks! This poor fellow does not realize what the problem was at Colossae. At Colossae, the term Paul used for how the believers were treated by the Judaizers was 'de-qualified' or 'dis-qualified.' They were inferior indeed. "All" they had was Christ, the losers.

I haven't heard this said as disgustingly in a long time. The whole temperament and mentality of the NT has been missed. Ac28 has set all the divisions back up all over again.

And then there is important question about the title of Hebrews. Is it actually the new Israel/Hebrews he's talking to? It would seem so. 95% OF WHAT MATTERS TO THE 'GENTILE' BELIEVER IS TRUE IN THE LETTER!

 

[DAN P]

Hi and IF the first 7 letters that Paul wrote , where do you as an Acts 28er , what verse do you use , on how believers are BAPTIZED into the Body of Christ ??

dan p

Hi and how do Acts 28er get into the Body of Christ TODAY ??

DAN P

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

And there we have it folks! This poor fellow does not realize what the problem was at Colossae. At Colossae, the term Paul used for how the believers were treated by the Judaizers was 'de-qualified' or 'dis-qualified.' They were inferior indeed. "All" they had was Christ, the losers.

I haven't heard this said as disgustingly in a long time. The whole temperament and mentality of the NT has been missed. Ac28 has set all the divisions back up all over again.

And then there is important question about the title of Hebrews. Is it actually the new Israel/Hebrews he's talking to? It would seem so. 95% OF WHAT MATTERS TO THE 'GENTILE' BELIEVER IS TRUE IN THE LETTER!

:chuckle: