NWL
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I've listened to the first one, but didn't really hear anything I haven't heard before.Have you listened to these?
I was speaking to those who may read and not know, thought that would be obvious.
"The Divinity of Christ"
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oatmeal
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If we use Webster's to define "divine" we have the following:
DIVINE adjective
1. Pertaining to the true God; as the divine nature; divine perfections.
2. Pertaining to a heathen deity, or to false gods.
3. Partaking of the nature of God.
Half human, half divine
4. Proceeding from God; as divine judgments.
5. Godlike; heavenly; excellent in the highest degree; extraordinary; apparently above what is human. In this application the word admits of comparison; as a divine invention; a divine genius; the divinest mind.
A divine sentence is in the lips of the king. Proverbs 16:10.
6. Presageful; foreboding; prescient. [Not used.]
7. Appropriated to God, or celebrating his praise; as divine service; divine songs; divine worship.
or as a noun:
DIVINE, noun
1. A minister of the gospel; a priest; a clergyman.
The first divines of New England were surpassed by none in extensive erudition, personal sanctity, and diligence in the pastoral office.
2. A man skilled in divinity; a theologian; as a great divine
Being divine does not impy literally being God, but literally being godlike as Christians are supposed to be.
Ephesians 5:1
KJV
Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
ASV
Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;
AMPC
Therefore be imitators of God [copy Him and follow His example], as well-beloved children [imitate their father].
CSB
Therefore, be imitators of God, as dearly loved children,
CEB
Therefore, imitate God like dearly loved children.
CJB
So imitate God, as his dear children;
CEV
Do as God does. After all, you are his dear children.
The list goes on.....
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Christ Jesus is literally God.
John 1:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (1:2) The same was in the beginning with God. (1:3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:1-3 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (1:2) The same was in the beginning with God. (1:3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
oatmeal
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The Bible is the word of God, isn't it? Is the Bible God? Did the Bible make all things?
Different "word".
There was a Word, and He took on flesh and became Jesus Christ.
There is also a printed word we can take with us every where we go.
I love both, but only one died for my sins.
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Try not to be so Biblically ignorant.
John 1:14 (AKJV/PCE)
(1:14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The CONTEXT of John 1 is NOT the "Bible as the Word", but it's JESUS AS THE WORD.
I strongly recommend reading this post by @Clete regarding the meaning of the greek word ΛΟΓΟΣ (LOGOS):
Our Moral God
I disagree with Clete's hypothesis and agree with Derf. Here's why. God is three persons in one. Therefore the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three distinct persons. A person cannot be an inanimate force or concept. Therefore love cannot be God. That would make God an inanimate force or...
theologyonline.com
Our Moral God
So you think a person, for God is a person, is a principle. Your equation of logic is therefore: principle == person and the reverse: person == principle. == equals "is equal to". By your logic you are a principle. Is that really how you see yourself? You see God as a person. God is...
theologyonline.com
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oatmeal
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God communicates in various ways, He communicates what He wants us to know via the written word, the incarnate word and other ways. God knew what the written word would say in the beginning. He also knew what the incarnate word would communicate as well, in the beginning.
None of that was a surprise to him.
oatmeal
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God communicated himself via the written word and via the word in the flesh. The word, the communication, the message was with God, He knew what He wanted to communicate and how he wanted to communicate in the beginning. He fore knew all
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You have thoroughly deceived yourself.
Why don't you capitalize the W in "incarnate Word"?
It was Jesus' name before He was made flesh.
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oatmeal
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Jesus is the message God wanted to communicate in the flesh, even as scripture is the message God communicates via written words.
What is so difficult to comprehend about that?
oatmeal
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If you are aware of the Greek manuscripts you will find that capitalization vs. non capitalization is not the practice. It is all one or the other
That may be true, but that doesn't make the meaning of LOGOS "message" or "word" or what have you.
Nothing, just that it has nothing to do with what @Clete was talking about.
You are not writing in Greek.
Proper names are capitalized here and now, and the Word was a being worthy of such an honor.
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Jesus is not "a message". Jesus is God in the flesh.
That is accurate, but does not confirm your "Jesus is the message..." nonsense.
It's not hard to understand, it's just false.
oatmeal
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Actually, you are right, it doesn't.
The reason is because logos means message or intended communication as far as the Greek meaning goes, thus any use in scripture implies message or communication.
oatmeal
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If you look at an interlinear, you will be educated
oatmeal
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If you wish to believe in a god with a multiple personality disorder, that is your problem, not mine
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You lie about God constantly. That's bad. It's called blaspheme.