The Church/Body of Christ in OT !
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Epoisses
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Israel under the old covenant was ethnic and of the flesh.
Israel under the new covenant is spiritual and of the heart.
Dispies try in vein to make the new covenant of faith into the same failed old covenant of the flesh.
Nanja
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Amen, and the Fountain of God's Grace upon the City of God, the Church, is also depicted as the tabernacle or house of David in Zech. 12:10, which later occured on the Day of Pentecost exclusively upon the members of Christ's Church which also includes the Gentiles Acts 15:16-17, Called and Saved according to God's Purpose and Grace given them In Christ Jesus before the World began 2 Tim. 1:9.
beloved57
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Absolutely. Very instructive !
beloved57
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Do you want to talk about the OP ? Who is the City of God in that scripture ?
SaulToPaul 2
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Thou hast well said.
beloved57
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The Church, the Body of Christ in the OT is here called the Nation, the people chosen for His Own Inheritance.
Ps 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
The NT counterpart is the Church Chosen in Christ Eph 1:4 Gods own Inheritance Eph 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
1 Pet 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
Ps 33:12
Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.
The NT counterpart is the Church Chosen in Christ Eph 1:4 Gods own Inheritance Eph 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
1 Pet 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
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Epoisses
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Israel in the new testament are all those with circumcised hearts not circumcised flesh.
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Col. 2:11-13
Nanja
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Amen, this One Holy Nation Ps. 33:12 is One Body In Christ Chosen in Him, His Inheritance:
Eph. 3:6
That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Eph. 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling
The Israel of God was never a physical nation, made up of flesh, but a Spiritual Nation made up of all those born of the Seed of Christ: Not of the flesh but of the Spirit, the Nation which consists of all the Spiritual Seed of Abraham Rom. 9:8, the Seed of Christ, His Body he gave Himself for Eph. 5:25, purchased with His Own Blood Acts 20:28.
Gal. 3:16, 29
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
beloved57
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Thank you for those very supportive scriptures !
SaulToPaul 2
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This passage is about the circumcision of Christ, on the cross, when his flesh was cut off from his soul and spirit.
Nanja
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You're welcome my Brother, TGBTG ! ☺
Hi and do you have a verse where it says when Israel's heart were CIRCUMCISED ??
2 Cor 3:13-15 says you are wrong !!
dan p
beloved57
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The foundation spoken of in the OT is Christ Isa 28:16
Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
This applied to the Church the Body of Christ 1 Cor 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Rom 10:11
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Eph 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Or Foundation
1 Pet 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone[foundation], elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
This applied to the Church the Body of Christ 1 Cor 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Rom 10:11
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Eph 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Or Foundation
1 Pet 2:6
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone[foundation], elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
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You hyper-calvinists are something else. How could the church of Christ be established before the coming of Christ? The Church was established on Pentecost.
Tell that to Stephen who said "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:" Acts 7:38
He knew Who was in the burning bush, at Sinai and in the moving cloud His body to guide and comfort...already giving us the Words of Life...the bread of life...
They rejected Stephan too for reminding them Yahushua was the I Am now glorified and returned to the right hand of Yah...killed him for it...
pharisees...from Jerusalem to Rome... always trying to supplant the True Shepherd to mislead His flock
Nanja
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beloved57
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Another way we know from scripture that the Church, Christ's Wife existed in the OT is John the baptist words here Jn 3:29
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
Now who is John referring to as the bridegroom here ? Its surely Jesus Christ. And technically because Christ had not yet died, the OT Covenant Law period was still in force, but yet During this time Christ is spiritually recognized as the bridegroom, having a bride, which I believe is the Church Eph 5
He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
Now who is John referring to as the bridegroom here ? Its surely Jesus Christ. And technically because Christ had not yet died, the OT Covenant Law period was still in force, but yet During this time Christ is spiritually recognized as the bridegroom, having a bride, which I believe is the Church Eph 5
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