The Burning of Jerusalem

[Gurucam]

Jesus brought grace and truth in the fullness of time, for Jews. They rejected et all

Jesus brought grace and truth in the fullness of time, for Jews. They rejected et all

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

The ten commandments were given for the following temporal reason:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

The above was the reality among the Jews when Moses was called to lead them. This is why the ten commandments were given to Jews. Also Moses fool-up the Jews into believing that ten commandments are absolute laws from God. This was done so that the Jews will obey these laws out of fear of God.

Moses did not tell the Jews that the law are only for temporal use. The ten commandments were for use until they become spiritually aware and can be healed by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth. Then they were to totally drop these laws.

Moses fool-up the Jews, in order to mange them and their unruly fearless behavior.

2 Corinthians:3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

(The ten commandments were to be totally abolished, eventually and replace by the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Under the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus one has freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love)

However when Moses gave the law, it was different. The Jews were not given to know truth and grace.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Eventually, the fullness of time came. It became time for the Jews to know truth. They had to be told that the ten commandment applied to only them. They had to be told that the ten commandments were not absolute laws from God. They had to be told that the ten commandments had became their curse. They had to be told that they had become stuck (in sin, death and delivery into hell) because they were not told that the ten commandments were for temporal use, until they came onto the faith and Christ:

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Galatians: 3 King James Version (KJV)
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Fact is, the ten commandments did not define God's morality. Moses did not bring grace and truth. Only Jesus brough grace and truth. The following 'stand on its own' statement which came directly from the Lord Jesus, defines God's morality:

Romans: 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean

This is why righteousness of God that is with the ten commandments had to be done away with and replaced with righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments. It was time to end delusion for Jews. Of course the Jews rejected grace and truth. And continued under the ten commandments.

There is no avoiding sin, death and hell for those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandment even in the slightest way. They all fall short of the glory of God. This is the curse of the the ten commandments which are described as the laws of sin, death and delivery to hell.

However if one totally abandon the ten commandments and embrace righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments one gets no sin when one transgress the ten commandments. Righteousness of God that is without the ten commandments is the law of the the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus. Under this new spirit and Spirit based law one has God given freedom, liberty, justification and instructions to transgress the ten commandments and not get sin . . . but instead be glorified by God:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

The above is the good reason for manifesting righteousness of God without the ten commandments. The manifesting of righteousness of God without the ten commandments is the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth in a physical human body:

Roman: 3 KJV N.T.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" is linked to "Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law"

Only those who are under the law can sin and come short of the glory of God because where no law is, there is no transgression.

Romans: 4 KJV N.T.
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression

There are two way to be under the influence of the ten commandments. The Jews are under the ten commandments because Moses told them that those are God's laws.

For Gentiles the ten commandments are not 'laws from God'. However some Gentiles impose similar laws on themselves because of their own conscience:

Romans: 2 KJV N.T.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

However there are others who are not under the likes of the ten commandments, either by Moses or by conscience. Among these are those who are led by the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth:

Romans: 4 KJV N.T.
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression

Those who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments are all in the flesh. And no flesh can be or shall be justified in his sight. Note that only those in the flesh are held under the ten commandments:

Roman: 7 KJV N.T.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

And only those who are under the ten commandments sin and fall short of the glory of God, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

It is very high time that the Jews stop posting foolishness and totally drop Moses and the law (i.e. the Old sin, death and delivery to hell system) and totally and fully embrace Jesus, grace and truth (the New sinless, life giving and delivery to heaven system) . . . because:

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

And because Moses fool-up the Jews, in order to mange them and their unruly fearless behavior.

2 Corinthians:3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

 

[Gurucam]

'truth 101'

'truth 101'

It is very high time that the Jews stop posting foolishness, which they corruptly claim to be revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

Instead it is high time that the Jews totally drop Moses and the ten commandments. These comprise the Old sin, death and delivery to hell system.

Simultaneously it is high time that the Jews totally and fully embrace Jesus, grace and truth. These comprise the New sinless, life giving and delivery to heaven system.

Fact is

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Fact is Moses fool-up the Jews, in order to mange them and their unruly fearless behavior.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

2 Corinthians:3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

It is high time for the Jews to drop the teachings of Moses and Moses who did not bring grace and truth. It is high time for the Jews to totally embrace Jesus who brought both grace and truth

 

[Tambora]

Who's we?

My brother Steko and I.

Happy New Year!

 

[beloved57]

Does not Jesus say that a good shepherd always goes to find his lost sheep?

Wasn't it Jesus Himself that said He came only for the lost sheep of Israel?

I believe it was Jesus that said that the sun and moon would remain until ALL the law and the prophets were fulfilled?
Did not the prophets says that the the sticks of the split nation would be restored as one, where they would never be plucked up again, and live in safety, etc?????

It's obvious to those that are not bound to a cult's doctrine that Israel's prophetic history is not over.

Israel Abrahams descendants according to the flesh are not the children of God Rom 9:8, so there's no promises to them, they don't belong to God, not His Sheep.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

It is very high time that the Jews stop posting foolishness, which they corruptly claim to be revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.

Instead it is high time that the Jews totally drop Moses and the ten commandments. These comprise the Old sin, death and delivery to hell system.

Simultaneously it is high time that the Jews totally and fully embrace Jesus, grace and truth. These comprise the New sinless, life giving and delivery to heaven system.

Fact is

John: 1 King James Version (KJV)
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Fact is Moses fool-up the Jews, in order to mange them and their unruly fearless behavior.

Romans: 3 KJV N.T.
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

2 Corinthians:3 KJV N.T.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

It is high time for the Jews to drop the teachings of Moses and Moses who did not bring grace and truth. It is high time for the Jews to totally embrace Jesus who brought both grace and truth

Ok...

So, I understand your argument.

Old Covenant Dependance can't save. Jews that aren't Messianic tend to be Athiest's and Judaism practicing. Some even converted to other religions.

Thus, you are arguing that they are lost. Now... let's unpack that. What saves us under the New Covenant?

Our actions? No

Our merit? Nope

Our Election? Noperino

Jesus! Ding Ding Ding

But why does Jesus save? God's promise that was fulfilled through His Revelation of His "Word". Aka The Promise God would save us through His work. Visa Vi... Jesus

What saves the Jews and Israel?

God's promises!

Note the point? It's Him, not them.

Otherwise, Romans 11 is a lie and all of its verbiage would be worthless. That would make Paul a liar and God too, because God promised salvation to the Jews, despite their stiff necks.

Like... Egypt. They were "saved" from the shackles of Pharo, by God, not their obedience. They did utilize the blood on the door posts, but let's be honest... They saw what happened when God was disobeyed through Moses and Pharo having a showdown. In other words... God promised Abraham that his many descendants would dwell in Israel and God honored His promise, even though the Children of Israel were a pain in the ying yang on their earthly journey out of Egypt.

Yup, they perished in the desert by the droves and even Moses didn't set foot in the promised land...

But... that's the majesty of GOD (Jesus).

God is a God of 10,000,000 chances and death aint our final call! Who makes our final arrangements after death? God!

Lucifer and Michael fought over Moses body...

Who do you think had the final say in that argument? Neither of them. It was God!

My point? If God removes 1 single promise, then all of His promises would be null. He made permanent promises to the descendants of Jacob and prophesied about things involving them that haven't happened yet. Literal Jews in Literal Israel livening in peace, but without any future scorn or war to be precise. When has this happened? Never... Israels peace has been temporary up to now. Even now, it has... NO PEACE.

If God sent Jesus and shook up "known Theology", why is it so hard as a New Covenant believer to see that He hasn't thrown away His promises to the Jews and has a super awesome curve ball ready again?

Anyhow...

Happy new year

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Israel Abrahams descendants according to the flesh are not the children of God Rom 9:8, so there's no promises to them, they don't belong to God, not His Sheep.

Beloved 57

Are you saying that the elect can become "unelect"?

Wouldn't that sink Calvinism faster than any other idea? Hmmmmm... What if the elect of Calvinist theology have been replaced by something else. What if your election is now void and someone somewhere else is typing "not His sheep" about you?

Are God's promises revocable? Is salvation assured with the logic that election is a thing that can be erased by God if He promises such and then....

IDK, decides to remove it?

Does God make Covenants and Promises then go back on His "Word"?

Maybe Romans 11 answers this.

Romans 11:12 is especially interesting. I wonder if the writer of Romans 9:8 also wrote 11:12? Hmmmmm.... If only the Husband (True Gardener) was a Master graftsman. He could graft in what was removed and graft some more. I wonder if Romans 11 talks about this?

 

[Gurucam]

Ok...

So, I understand your argument.

Old Covenant Dependance can't save. Jews that aren't Messianic tend to be Athiest's and Judaism practicing. Some even converted to other religions.

Thus, you are arguing that they are lost. Now... let's unpack that. What saves us under the New Covenant?

Our actions? No

Our merit? Nope

Our Election? Noperino

Jesus! Ding Ding Ding

Your claim that one is not saved by action, is totally incorrect.

Under the Christian system, one is saved, only, by one's action (and nothing else).

That is, one is saved and delivered to heaven, if during this life time, one soweth to Spirit:

Hebrews: 9 King James Version (KJV)
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Judgment is based on:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Only children of God are the saved and delivered. Only those who are led by the Spirit are children of God:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Only those who do the will of God are saved and delivered to heaven:

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
7 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Only those who serve spirit/love bring forth fruits onto God:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Only those who bring forth fruits onto God inherit heaven:

Matthew: 21 KJV N.T.
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

All the above clearly and literally confirms that one must to do works in order to be saved and delivered.

1. 'soweth to the Spirit' is works.
2. 'led by the Spirit' is works.
3. 'doeth the will of my Father' is works.
4. serve in newness of spirit is works.
5. 'bringing forth the fruits thereof/fruits onto God' is works

God is a Spirit.

John 4 King James Version (KJV)
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Therefore all of the above relates to knowing and worshiping God (who is a Spirit), as requested and serving spirit and Spirit, as the path to being saved and delivered to heaven.

Repeating slogans does not save and deliver one to heaven.

Simply repeating a slogan will land one in hell. Also failure to do the above works will land one in hell.

The idea of repeating a slogan and the very slogan that is popularity repeated is a parable. Parables are not to be accepted as a source for truth or truth. Parables were not given to add anything to people. Parables were given to take away what people had.

Parables were given to people who were not given by God to know/get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. Yet a billion strong traditional Christians use parables. They are all misled.

Fact is, people err (and are not chosen) when they do not know and/or use scriptures accurately

Mark: 12 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

These billion or so people who are repeating a slogan, under the belief that they will be saved, are grossly misled. They do not know scriptures accurately. They are relying on a parable. Parables are given for the dead to bury their dead. This is why:

Matthew: 22 King James Version (KJV)
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

At any event, a billion slogan parroting people cannot be a few. They cannot be the few who have/know scriptures correct, do not err and are the chosen chosen.

This is simple kindergarten sums, "a billion into a few, simply can't go"

A billion strong traditional Christians cannot be the few who found the straight gate and narrow way:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Your claim is incorrect. Under the Christian system, one is saved by one's action.

That is, one is saved and delivered to heaven by one's actions during one current life on earth.

More precisely, one is saved and delivered to heaven, if during this life time, one soweth to Spirit:

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Only children of God are the saved and delivered. Only those who are led by the Spirit are children of God:

Romans: 8 King James Version (KJV)
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Only those who do the will of God are saved and delivered to heaven:

Matthews: 7 KJV N.T.
7 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

All the above requires one to do work.

Repeating slogans does not save and deliver one to heaven.

Gurucam,

Is it DO or DONE?

Am I slave or son?

Is it His work or mine?

Does He forgive? Haven't we all fallen short? Woe is me!

What must I do to do the work of God?

Believe in the one He sent.

But the Jews disbelieve! But He does not revoke a single promise!

Then what are you saying?

I'm saying that God Saves and we destroy. He Lives, but we die. It is through and by Him alone that any have a shred of hope and by human merit, there is no hope.

So God is Good?

All the Time!

But if any man come any other way, he is a thief and a robber. Wait... He's in the business of saving thiefs.

"This day I tell you, you will be with me in paradise"

 

[Ben Masada]

Jesus brought grace and truth in the fullness of time, for Jews. They rejected et all.

Tell me Gurucam, would life be possible if all the nations of the whole world absolutely dropped their laws and became totally amoral? If you ask me, not for too long. Till then we would live under the law of the jungle which would be the same as no law. Humans need the Law to curb their passions and violence. Hence, HaShem, as a result of His grace has granted us with the Law so that we may be able to live in society and with some order.

 

[Tambora]

Romans 4:4 KJV
(4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

 

[Interplanner]

Tell me Gurucam, would life be possible if all the nations of the whole world absolutely dropped their laws and became totally amoral? If you ask me, not for too long. Till then we would live under the law of the jungle which would be the same as no law. Humans need the Law to curb their passions and violence. Hence, HaShem, as a result of His grace has granted us with the Law so that we may be able to live in society and with some order.

Yes it is necessary for society; the line from John 1 was not displacing that. Nor does NT theology generally.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Tell me Gurucam, would life be possible if all the nations of the whole world absolutely dropped their laws and became totally amoral? If you ask me, not for too long. Till then we would live under the law of the jungle which would be the same as no law. Humans need the Law to curb their passions and violence. Hence, HaShem, as a result of His grace has granted us with the Law so that we may be able to live in society and with some order.

All democratic society and every democratic republic has deep underpinnings of the Law in it! Well spoken.

It also incorporates "Love thy neighbor as thyself", but again, this is not NEW... it can also be found in Torah study. : )

 

[beloved57]

Evileye

Beloved 57

Are you saying that the elect can become "unelect"?

No, where did I say that?

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Evileye



No, where did I say that?

Romans 11 calls the Jews beloved and elect because of their ancestors and the OT references this over and over.

Paul states that the New Covenant removed them from the tree and gentiles were grafted in.

He calls them the "true branches" and warns us "not to become conceited" in our grafting, though they are "enemies of the gospel". He then speaks of a mystery concerning how they were "removed" that we could be saved, but that their re grafting will yield many more than ever before saved.

He states that this mystery won't be revealed until the full number of gentiles have come in. This hasn't happened yet. Ascribing this to what has already come is denying the specific tone of prophecy in Paul's rhetoric.

By denying that God still has a plan for the elect of literal Israel (by their ancestors), is to deny that election is a permanent thing. The Jews are the original and true elect. Christ came through them.

He isn't done yet Beloved52.

 

[beloved57]

Romans 11 calls the Jews beloved and elect because of their ancestors and the OT references this over and over.

Paul states that the New Covenant removed them from the tree and gentiles were grafted in.

He calls them the "true branches" and warns us "not to become conceited" in our grafting, though they are "enemies of the gospel". He then speaks of a mystery concerning how they were "removed" that we could be saved, but that their re grafting will yield many more than ever before saved.

He states that this mystery won't be revealed until the full number of gentiles have come in. This hasn't happened yet. Ascribing this to what has already come is denying the specific tone of prophecy in Paul's rhetoric.

By denying that God still has a plan for the elect of literal Israel (by their ancestors), is to deny that election is a permanent thing. The Jews are the original and true elect. Christ came through them.

He isn't done yet Beloved52.

That Israel according to the physical descendants of Abraham are not the children of God Rom 9:8 so they can't be elect or beloved of God!

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

That Israel according to the physical descendants of Abraham are not the children of God Rom 9:8 so they can't be elect or beloved of God!

You're still discounting Romans 11 which says otherwise.

Romans 9 - 11 must be taken in with consideration of their collective message.

This has been discussed many times here in the earlier posts.

 

[Gurucam]

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

I do not understand your very abbreviated post. Sounds llike you are trying to sell 'lemons'. Why not be simple and straightforward?

The Holy KJV N.T. is very simple and straightforward. It says:

Only the Jews and others who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments even in the slightest way' fall short of the glory of God and goes to hell. This is how one soweth to flesh

Those who, as their life style, transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love, never fall short of the glory of God. They are always glorified by God and enter heaven. This is how one soweth to Spirit.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The truth as clearly confirmed by the Holy KJV N.T. is: The Jews are doomed. They sin and go to hell, because they continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. Because every one who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments fall short.

On the other hand those who do not esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments do not fall short of the glory of God.

The Jews remained doomed and get sin and go to hell because they never give up the ten commandments and they never deliberately transgress, the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love.

The Jews were and continue to be evil because they refused to look to the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth, who is 'not seen' and eternal. They refused God's offer of the Spirit.

The Jews were a wicked and adulterous nation because they refused to look to the 'not seen' Spirit that was promised to Abraham, by God. They sought physical validation of this Spirit (they sought a 'sign'). This caused Jesus to come among the Jews and suffer at the hand of the Jews, so as to validate the Spirit that was promised by God to the Jews.

Then, even after Jesus did the above works, for God, the Jews continue to deny the Spirit that was promised to them by God.

These two denial and continued denial of the Spirit is a biggest sin that is unique to only the Jews

Matthew: 16 KJV N.T.
4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

The Jews are identifying with Christians only to fool Christians and so feel good by seeking to invalidate Christianity. They are fooling only them selves.

 

[Nang]

You're still discounting Romans 11 which says otherwise.

Romans 9 - 11 must be taken in with consideration of their collective message.

This has been discussed many times here in the earlier posts.

And you have not learned a thing, have you?

The "collective message" of Romans 9 - 11 is that God saves His own, chosen remnant of children, out of all the nations. These constitute the true "Israel." Romans 9:24-26

". . For they are not all Israel who are of Israel. That is, those who are children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed." Romans 9:6-8 (cp Galatians 4:21-31)

God made two covenant promises to Abraham. One concerning his children from Ishmael (son of flesh) and their temporal inheritance, and another concerning his children from Isaac (son of promise) and their eternal inheritance. National Israel as a whole, never received the promise of the Savior/Seed, but only a remnant received the promises of grace and salvation.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

And you have not learned a thing, have you?

The "collective message" of Romans 9 - 11 is that God saves His own, chosen remnant of children, out of all the nations. These constitute the true "Israel." Romans 9:24-26

". . For they are not all Israel who are of Israel. That is, those who are children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed." Romans 9:6-8 (cp Galatians 4:21-31)

God made two covenant promises to Abraham. One concerning his children from Ishmael (son of flesh) and their temporal inheritance, and another concerning his children from Isaac (son of promise) and their eternal inheritance. National Israel as a whole, never received the promise of the Savior/Seed, but only a remnant received the promises of grace and salvation.

Ever see a horse with blinders on?

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Evil.Eye.<(I)>

I do not understand your very abbreviated post.

I add only:

Only the Jews and others who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments even in the slightest way' fall short of the glory of God and goes to hell. This is how one soweth to flesh

Those who, as their life style, transgress the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love, never fall short of the glory of God. They are always glorified by God and enter heaven. This is how one soweth to Spirit.

Galatians: 6 King James Version (KJV)
7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

The truth as clearly confirmed by the Holy KJV N.T. is: The Jews are doomed. They sin and go to hell, because they continue to esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments. Because every one who esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments fall short.

These who do not esteem, use, invoke and promote the ten commandments do not fall short of the glory of God.

The Jews remained doomed and get sin and goes to hell because they never give up and or deliberately transgress, the ten commandments so as to serve spirit/love.

Aha!

Can we now say only one knows the Spirit of a person and judges justly? Perhaps we could try to judge, but only the Just King knows the heart of a person.