still under construction
the apocalypse
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still under construction
so how is the construction coming?
okay
do the pieces fit?
it is a puzzle and the pieces must fit
what if they don't?
you keep looking
what about recapitulation?
it may be the most important piece
why?
without it some of the pieces do not fit
okay
do the pieces fit?
it is a puzzle and the pieces must fit
what if they don't?
you keep looking
what about recapitulation?
it may be the most important piece
why?
without it some of the pieces do not fit
you are doing a good job of not being disruptive
I think it is necessary
not being disruptive?
it gives me time for other things
like what?
research
you do need time for that
augustine said something about that
like what?
it is good if you have time for this kind of stuff
like being disruptive?
no, research
so you think being disruptive is not necessary?
can't say that
what can you say?
somebody has to do it
I think it is necessary
not being disruptive?
it gives me time for other things
like what?
research
you do need time for that
augustine said something about that
like what?
it is good if you have time for this kind of stuff
like being disruptive?
no, research
so you think being disruptive is not necessary?
can't say that
what can you say?
somebody has to do it
so you like puzzles?
if the pieces fit, you must admit
don't you have to force them to fit?
interpretations are forced
by what?
your agenda
so everyone has one?
ubetcha
so what is yours
to show rome is not babylon the great
so what is it?
new jerusalem
if the pieces fit, you must admit
don't you have to force them to fit?
interpretations are forced
by what?
your agenda
so everyone has one?
ubetcha
so what is yours
to show rome is not babylon the great
so what is it?
new jerusalem
so where did you find this?
find what?
rome is new jerusalem
I didn't
so you came up with this on your own?
I did get a little help with scripture and common sense
what else did you not find anywhere else?
the four horseman
so everything else has been suggested by others?
that's right
what about the thousand years?
I can't understand why more are not looking at the byzantine empire
find what?
rome is new jerusalem
I didn't
so you came up with this on your own?
I did get a little help with scripture and common sense
what else did you not find anywhere else?
the four horseman
so everything else has been suggested by others?
that's right
what about the thousand years?
I can't understand why more are not looking at the byzantine empire
so are you backing this stuff up?
in case it gets deleted?
you need to think about that
they may need room for all those software posts
don't you use software?
I use biblegateway
why do you always use the kjv?
when in rome...
so for you it is not a big deal?
no
that is pretty good for a catholic
thank you, thank you very much
in case it gets deleted?
you need to think about that
they may need room for all those software posts
don't you use software?
I use biblegateway
why do you always use the kjv?
when in rome...
so for you it is not a big deal?
no
that is pretty good for a catholic
thank you, thank you very much
oatmeal
Well-known member
I Thessalonians 4:13-18 shall occur before the apocalypse ever starts.
the time is not near
the time is not now
the time is past
to ignore it
is
to be ignorant
how many different views of the apocalypse are there?
four
what are they?
preterist, historicist, futurist, and spiritualist
and you are a historicist?
a new and improved one
why do you say that?
normal historicists identify rome as babylon the great
that is a problem for catholics
that is why they came up with the preterist and spiritualist views
who are the futurists?
they are mad
do you have a link for this?
ubetcha
did you find a book on this?
ubetcha
four
what are they?
preterist, historicist, futurist, and spiritualist
and you are a historicist?
a new and improved one
why do you say that?
normal historicists identify rome as babylon the great
that is a problem for catholics
that is why they came up with the preterist and spiritualist views
who are the futurists?
they are mad
do you have a link for this?
ubetcha
did you find a book on this?
ubetcha
why do you think the apocalypse is in the bible?
somebody convinced somebody that it came from the apostle john
and who might they be?
jerome has to be the one convinced
did he decide what was going to be in the bible?
no but he was translating it
wasn't he told what to translate?
yes but before jerome the apocalypse was not settled
and after him it was?
yes
and you think chrysostom had something to do with that
yes
why?
he was in ephesus the same time jerome was doing his translation
that's it?
no there are many other reasons
will they be covered in 'the three johns' thread?
yes
somebody convinced somebody that it came from the apostle john
and who might they be?
jerome has to be the one convinced
did he decide what was going to be in the bible?
no but he was translating it
wasn't he told what to translate?
yes but before jerome the apocalypse was not settled
and after him it was?
yes
and you think chrysostom had something to do with that
yes
why?
he was in ephesus the same time jerome was doing his translation
that's it?
no there are many other reasons
will they be covered in 'the three johns' thread?
yes
are you still finding new things?
ubetcha
like what?
just recently I found this painting of the four horsemen
what was so special about that?
most have the rider of the white horse carrying a bow and arrow
and this one didn't?
this one had him carrying a rainbow
is that biblical?
bow means rainbow and covenant
based on what?
gen 9:16
that is pretty good for a catholic
thank you, thank you very much
do you have a link for that painting?
right here
ubetcha
like what?
just recently I found this painting of the four horsemen
what was so special about that?
most have the rider of the white horse carrying a bow and arrow
and this one didn't?
this one had him carrying a rainbow
is that biblical?
bow means rainbow and covenant
based on what?
gen 9:16
that is pretty good for a catholic
thank you, thank you very much
do you have a link for that painting?
right here
That is interesting....for he went forth conquering to conquer. But God must remember His covenant to all flesh, He will never again arbitarily wipe out humanity. The covenant of the rainbow is "seedtime and harvest" or "whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap"
so why do we need to know this?
I am not sure we do
why do you?
there is something about using your talents
so it is your job?
write about what you know
did you eat the book?
you could say that
that's why I did
how sweet it is
are you having trouble digesting it?
I don't understand it all
so you keep looking?
ubetcha
I am not sure we do
why do you?
there is something about using your talents
so it is your job?
write about what you know
did you eat the book?
you could say that
that's why I did
how sweet it is
are you having trouble digesting it?
I don't understand it all
so you keep looking?
ubetcha
I see you added 'the two witnesses'
we are still under construction
did you have trouble with the two witnesses?
you could say that
that's why I did
there are plenty of clues
in the old testament?
we also have history
what if it doesn't fit?
a literal interpretation is not always possible
how do you determine when it is?
when it fits
we are still under construction
did you have trouble with the two witnesses?
you could say that
that's why I did
there are plenty of clues
in the old testament?
we also have history
what if it doesn't fit?
a literal interpretation is not always possible
how do you determine when it is?
when it fits
Letsargue
New member
Three Johns??? - ( Three )??? ----- Apostles???
Can you give us their "surnames", or Other names, or something so We can "Count" them; - to (((( PROVE )))) There are ~Three????
I'll bet you missed one, --- or two!!!
Paul, David -- 081214
so you read a book
laying in bed with a good one is much nicer than sitting at the computer
it is hard to find a good one
this is true
how did you find it?
at the library
so you don't have your own copy?
this one I do
amazon?
you can get a good used hardcover for a good price
like what?
like this
laying in bed with a good one is much nicer than sitting at the computer
it is hard to find a good one
this is true
how did you find it?
at the library
so you don't have your own copy?
this one I do
amazon?
you can get a good used hardcover for a good price
like what?
like this
I am being disrupted
is it necessary?
family is
some don't think so
some have a problem with duty
is it a necessary ingredient?
you pay now or you pay later
some have a problem with that
some have a problem with reality
only the ones who can't borrow
is it necessary?
family is
some don't think so
some have a problem with duty
is it a necessary ingredient?
you pay now or you pay later
some have a problem with that
some have a problem with reality
only the ones who can't borrow
so you are on the road today?
in the air
that can't be fun
it's a long way
family?
ubetcha
hope you have a nice trip
they have beer there
prosit
in the air
that can't be fun
it's a long way
family?
ubetcha
hope you have a nice trip
they have beer there
prosit