The Abortion/Homosexuality Paradox

[Rusha]

Babies born into abject poverty , hunger, malnutrition, filthy housing , lack of medical care and good education do not choose to be born into such horrible conditions . These horrible conditions in society are one thing which CAUSES poor women to have abortions in the first place .

I am STILL trying to find out why you always rely on poverty as being the qualifier for abortion.

 

[glassjester]

These horrible conditions in society are one thing which CAUSES poor women to have abortions in the first place .

That's weird. Does poverty cause pregnancy?

I thought sex caused pregnancy.

 

[resodko]

That's weird. Does poverty cause pregnancy?

I thought sex caused pregnancy.

immorality causes pregnancy (in many cases)

selfishness causes abortions


well, selfishness and the ease of finding somebody to help you murder your child

 

[glassjester]

well, selfishness and the ease of finding somebody to help you murder your child

And a society that convinces you it's most definitely not murder.

 

[glassjester]

Although, I can't help but suspect that everyone really does know that it is.

 

[PureX]

That's weird. Does poverty cause pregnancy?

I thought sex caused pregnancy.

Poverty causes ignorance, hopelessness, cynicism, and a chronic lack of self-worth; all of which contribute greatly to unwanted pregnancies and subsequent abortions.

I don't know if Horn believes poverty is justification for an abortion of not. But I do know that poverty is the driving force within a cultural juggernaut that destroys countless human lives. Including children's lives, every day. And there certainly is an element of willful ignorance among those who spout off endlessly about the horrors of abortion while they say nothing, or even worse, defend a culture that creates so much suffering and human destruction through poverty. This insistence on trying to separate them borders on the pathological.

 

[glassjester]

This insistence on trying to separate them borders on the pathological.

Should poverty be considered a valid legal defense for murder?

 

[resodko]

Although, I can't help but suspect that everyone really does know that it is.

in their heart, yes, of course they do

but the evil that selfishness enables allows them to silence that voice

 

[resodko]

Poverty causes ignorance, hopelessness, cynicism, and a chronic lack of self-worth; all of which contribute greatly to unwanted pregnancies and subsequent abortions.

I don't know if Horn believes poverty is justification for an abortion of not. But I do know that poverty is the driving force within a cultural juggernaut that destroys countless human lives. Including children's lives, every day. And there certainly is an element of willful ignorance among those who spout off endlessly about the horrors of abortion while they say nothing, or even worse, defend a culture that creates so much suffering and human destruction through poverty. This insistence on trying to separate them borders on the pathological.

so quit being impoverished :idunno:

get a job, stop breeding like rabbits, stop expecting others to support you

 

[glassjester]

so quit being impoverished

Yikes.

 

[PureX]

Should poverty be considered a valid legal defense for murder?

Yes, under some circumstances. When greed leads to the accumulation of wealth in the hands of a very few, through the exploitation and suffering of the many, I believe it is justifiable to use deadly force to remedy the situation. And so did our founders, as they declared that very ideal before they began a bloody revolution with England.

 

[resodko]

Yes, under some circumstances. When greed leads to the accumulation of wealth in the hands of a very few, through the exploitation and suffering of the many, I believe it is justifiable to use deadly force to remedy the situation. And so did our founders, as they declared that very ideal before they began a bloody revolution with England.

that chronic alcoholism really took its toll on your brain, didn't it? :nono:


your liver enzyme levels must be through the roof

 

[glassjester]

Yes, under some circumstances. When greed leads to the accumulation of wealth in the hands of a very few, through the exploitation and suffering of the many, I believe it is justifiable to use deadly force to remedy the situation. And so did our founders, as they declared that very ideal before they began a bloody revolution with England.

So poverty is just cause for revolution. Ok. But murder?

If a man is on trial for shooting a man to death and taking his wallet, should his lawyer make the case that the defendant's poverty justifies the murder?

 

[PureX]

So poverty is just cause for revolution. Ok. But murder?

What do you think happens in a revolution? Do you think the wealthy elites just give up control of all that money and power without a fight? These are people who have already shown they'll do whatever it takes to exploit the world and everyone on it.

If a man is on trial for shooting a man to death and taking his wallet, should his lawyer make the case that the defendant's poverty justifies the murder?

Not in front of a jury full of people who all have wallets in their pockets.

You don't seem to understand that even the term "murder" gets defined by the wealthy elites and their minions.

 

[resodko]

What do you think happens in a revolution?

a lot of poor people kill a lot of other poor people, usually

 

[Rusha]

Poverty causes ignorance, hopelessness, cynicism, and a chronic lack of self-worth; all of which contribute greatly to unwanted pregnancies and subsequent abortions.

I don't know if Horn believes poverty is justification for an abortion of not. But I do know that poverty is the driving force within a cultural juggernaut that destroys countless human lives. Including children's lives, every day. And there certainly is an element of willful ignorance among those who spout off endlessly about the horrors of abortion while they say nothing, or even worse, defend a culture that creates so much suffering and human destruction through poverty. This insistence on trying to separate them borders on the pathological.

So there is no other way to deal with poverty outside of abortion? How about stealing, accompanied by murder IF the person is poor and needs the money to live on?

A person's financial status does not determine whether or not something is right or wrong.

 

[Tambora]

:thumb:

That's weird. Does poverty cause pregnancy?

Nope.

I thought sex caused pregnancy.

Yep.

 

[PureX]

So there is no other way to deal with poverty outside of abortion? How about stealing, accompanied by murder IF the person is poor and needs the money to live on?

You're missing the point. Poverty is the underlying cause of a great many social ills, including many unwanted pregnancies and the popularity of abortion. So that addressing abortion without addressing the ignorance, hopelessness, cynicism and lack of self-respect caused by chronic poverty is idiotic, and ultimately pointless. Yet many of the loudest anti-abortion proponents around here seem to be mightily silent when it comes to the social devastation caused by poverty, and it's evil twin, greed.

A person's financial status does not determine whether or not something is right or wrong.

Of course it does. How do you think corporations became "people"? Even the Supreme Court itself is not immune to the influence of the wealthy elite. They're running the show, and they're defining the terms of "good and evil", make no mistake.

 

[Tambora]

A person's financial status does not determine whether or not something is right or wrong.

:thumb:

 

[resodko]

You're missing the point. Poverty is the underlying cause of a great many social ills....

so get a job and quit whining about how poor you are :idunno: