The “no difference” theory is dead: Same sex parenting

[IMJerusha]

don't forget the father

I'm not. It's just that a lot of the fathers aren't even aware. Of those that are, a lot of them push for abortion while some of them push for adoption. Some push for marriage and a few push for parental rights. It doesn't help when many pregnancy centers refuse to even allow discussion of adoption. It's an option that is basically poo-pooed.

 

[chrysostom]

And here is where you position falls apart. Not all children who are adopted were "abandoned" by their biological parents



you mean biological parents, not "real" parents.

you must be good at semantics

 

[quip]

I do not consider that by itself a serious problem

Good.

 

[IMJerusha]

you must be good at semantics

That's not fair, Chrys. The real parent isn't always the biological parent and many adoptees find that out the hard way, though I don't blame them for looking. I probably would too. The fact is, in regard to the OP, no adoptee will ever find two males or two females as their biological parents because God didn't plan it that way and I know you agree with that.

 

[chrysostom]

just ask the children
if
you want to know whether or not mommy and daddy should stay together

so how do we keep mommy and daddy together?

 

[chrysostom]

That's not fair, Chrys. The real parent isn't always the biological parent and many adoptees find that out the hard way, though I don't blame them for looking. I probably would too. The fact is, in regard to the OP, no adoptee will ever find two males or two females as their biological parents because God didn't plan it that way and I know you agree with that.

ask the children what is fair

 

[IMJerusha]

so how do we keep mommy and daddy together?

It's not a question of keeping mommy and daddy together. It's a question of keeping ones hands to oneself until after marriage and accepting the fact that God abhors homosexuality because it's abberant from His plan. It's a question of understanding God's intention for mankind.

 

[chrysostom]

It's not a question of keeping mommy and daddy together. It's a question of keeping ones hands to oneself until after marriage and accepting the fact that God abhors homosexuality.

it is a question
it is my question
it is the most important question of every child
and
it deserves an answer

 

[IMJerusha]

it is a question
it is my question
it is the most important question of every child
and
it deserves an answer

I understand that Chrys and I agree but that's not the overall question or necessity.

 

[chrysostom]

I understand that Chrys and I agree but that's not the overall question or necessity.

okay
you answer your question
and
I will answer mine

 

[IMJerusha]

okay
you answer your question
and
I will answer mine

Don't you think God already has?...even for the children?

 

[WizardofOz]

I think its clear that I prefer traditional marriage and parenting. I don't know what effects this study will have. I wondered how others would view it.

I am not sure why certain posters dump on you simply because you have a different opinion. You've been polite and honest about your views and they attack you like spoiled children.

Maybe I'm getting too old...

 

[chrysostom]

so how do we keep mommy and daddy together?

provide tax breaks to married couples
provide tax exemptions for children
give the mother who normally stays home the social security of the father when he dies

make marriage sacred
make marriage a life commitment
make protection of the children the purpose of marriage

go after those who abandon their children

just for starters

 

[chrysostom]

Don't you think God already has?...even for the children?

well then

answer it for the posters on tol

 

[Town Heretic]

provide tax breaks to married couples
provide tax exemptions for children

We do those already.

give the mother who normally stays home the social security of the father when he dies

Something more than survivor benefits?

make marriage sacred

How? I mean if it isn't to the participants how can anyone do that for them?

make marriage a life commitment

Horrible idea if you mean to impose it by law.

make protection of the children the purpose of marriage

Horrible idea in general. It attacks the value of a marriage between people who either don't want (for any number of reasons that are none of our busines) or can't have (ditto) children. We don't have to devalue one thing to value another.

go after those who abandon their children

We do in my state. Deadbeat dads should be held accountable.

 

[GFR7]

provide tax breaks to married couples
provide tax exemptions for children
give the mother who normally stays home the social security of the father when he dies

make marriage sacred
make marriage a life commitment
make protection of the children the purpose of marriage

go after those who abandon their children

just for starters

Good plan. :thumb:

 

[Town Heretic]

Good plan. :thumb:

Do you think that if you had a daughter and she married a deceiver who then took to beating her half to death she should remain married to him for the rest of her life?

 

[GFR7]

Do you think that if you had a daughter and she married a deceiver who then took to beating her half to death she should remain married to him for the rest of her life?

Of course not. Not all marriages end for serious reasons: My 2 sisters dumped perfectly decent, kind, educated men so they could take up with hooligans half their age.

 

[resodko]

town: some perverted men abuse their wives, so we should accept any kind of perverted "marriage" :kookoo:

 

[PureX]

provide tax breaks to married couples

We do that.

provide tax exemptions for children

We do that.

give the mother who normally stays home the social security of the father when he dies

We do that.

make marriage sacred

What does that mean? How do you propose we do this?

make marriage a life commitment

How do you propose we do that, realistically, and by what right?

make protection of the children the purpose of marriage

Children are already protected, regardless of marriage laws.

go after those who abandon their children

Go after them, how? We already make them pay child support.