PKevman
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No, the law of the government. This government is not by the people, for the people.
Unless the people by and large are as wicked as their government. :think:
No, the law of the government. This government is not by the people, for the people.
You recognize that abortion is murder, don't you?
If some local municipalities in Germany decided to legalize and regulate the slaughter of Jews, would you oppose German's federal government from intervening?
When did it become out-of-bounds for the United States government to uphold its own Constitution? "No person shall be... deprived of life... without due process."
Why do you States' Rights folks base your arguments on states' supposed right to do thing like allowing the murder of the unborn and the ownership of blacks?
Unless the people by and large are as wicked as their government. :think:
Who pulls the trigger?
Kevin supports killing homosexuals. Does that make him guilty of murdering one?
I'm not really sure why you felt the need to say more than that....i agree that she is guilty...
Do you have a problem with people with badges?
Why do you constantly focus your argument on a person with a badge?
1. If a person with a badge who's been sworn to uphold the law comes across an individual who is beating a two year old child to death, he has every right to use force to stop that person up to and including taking their life if necessary. Would you agree with that? So then it's ok for a person with a badge to take the life of another person who didn't harm him. (Unless you disagree of course, but then I'd really like to know your justification).
2. When a murderer is executed it is rarely by a person with a badge incidentally, so would you like to retract your argument or are you trying to argue two things at once?
3. Your thinking on this is all wrong, and should be on what does God think and not what does Stephen Dale or Mr. Kevin or your dad think. Stephen Dale, Mr. Kevin, and your dad could all be wrong. God is not wrong. I believe God knows what is best for how a country and a criminal justice system should be run. Do you think that He does?
This whole thing came about because you are avoiding the implications of Ron Paul's stated position and in the process you mistated my position and I clarified it.
When an abortion doctor puts an innocent baby to death who has committed no crime, done no evil, and been convicted of no wrong-THAT is evil and it's murder and it's wrong!
When a criminal justice system puts to death a wicked person who commits a capital crime that is NOT evil, it is a good thing for society and as history has given replete examples of acts as a deterrent.
PastorKevin said:I happen to have been blessed to have known a few cops and they've been good people who put their lives on the line every night.
I attended Bible college with such a man and developed a good friendship with this brother who was attending solely for the purpose of learning more about God and His Word and being able to share as a layman in his church.
PastorKevin said:Was God justified to order the death penalty for those who in His eyes should be put to death? Or do you think He had it wrong?
Stephen Dale said:Do you realize that you intend to kill more people than Ron Paul does?
Because they're the only ones who can get away with killing people.
It's legalized killing. No more no less. It matters not if you work for the government or yourself you are still killing. When God looks at those who have killed others the determining factors won't be what "criminal justice system" they worked for.
Stephen Dale: Was there a reason why you cut the following parts of my post out in your reply?
How many people were actually put to death for the crime of homosexuality when it was punishable by death? Was AIDS a problem then?
Stephen Dale, do you support the elimination of all police departments
and all laws?
Oh come off it! You are making the police out to be a class of villains
Maybe not everything that falls out of your mouth is worth commenting on.
Get off your pedestal already...it's cracking.
Maybe not everything that falls out of your mouth is worth commenting on.
Get off your pedestal already...it's cracking.
Heavens, what's the world coming to?
It's very amusing to see Kev's pride on display here. The guy stings awfully easy.
What are you talking about Granite???
I have many struggles but neither you nor any other person will ever be able to prove that pride is one of them. Do you have something on topic to discuss?