Tasted Death for every Man !

[beloved57]

The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:

τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ᾽ ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς γεύσηται θανάτου

Man was added by the translators. The word pas can refer to all the whole, the sum total of all the group intended. Context is important n determining the group that the writer has in mind. Lets look at the very next verse 10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Bingo, its the many sons that e suffered and died for, or tasted death for, The word many polys:

many, much, large, many, numerous, great

He tasted death for many Sons, a great number of them, everyone of them. This is important,, because later in the same epistle the writer uses the adjective many again to denote who He tasted death for Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.

See Isa 53:11

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

 

[OZOS]

The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:

τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ᾽ ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς γεύσηται θανάτου

Man was added by the translators. The word pas can refer to all the whole, the sum total of all the group intended. Context is important n determining the group that the writer has in mind. Lets look at the very next verse 10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Bingo, its the many sons that e suffered and died for, or tasted death for, The word many polys:

many, much, large, many, numerous, great

He tasted death for many Sons, a great number of them, everyone of them. This is important,, because later in the same epistle the writer uses the adjective many again to denote who He tasted death for Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.

See Isa 53:11

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Oh my, you're such an idiot. OR, you are evil, possessed by demons, and attempting to deceive, as you lie against the truth.

In Hebrews 2:9 the writer expressly reveals that God tasted death for ALL (pâs).
In Hebrews 2:10 the many (polýs) sons (huiós) are those who received salvation.

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all (pâs), the testimony given at the proper time."

"...and He died for all (pâs), so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf."

Because you are a pervert, and because you have no clue what salvation is, or the fact that no man is saved by His death, you came up with this silly mess you concocted.

Jesus died for all (pâs), and those who believe He died for all (pâs) and was raised, receive His life, which is salvation.

Your cult denies that Jesus died for all (pâs) and places you outside the faith.

Once again, you are exposed as a fraud.

 

[Derf]

The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:

τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ᾽ ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς γεύσηται θανάτου

Man was added by the translators. The word pas can refer to all the whole, the sum total of all the group intended. Context is important n determining the group that the writer has in mind. Lets look at the very next verse 10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Bingo, its the many sons that e suffered and died for, or tasted death for, The word many polys:

many, much, large, many, numerous, great

He tasted death for many Sons, a great number of them, everyone of them. This is important,, because later in the same epistle the writer uses the adjective many again to denote who He tasted death for Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.

See Isa 53:11

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

It’s so great how you add to scripture to get it to say what you want.

 

[Bradley D]

παντὸς

How about pantos. Jesus died for everyone.

παντὸς pantos

everyone

 

[beloved57]

It’s so great how you add to scripture to get it to say what you want.

Yeah right, thats sound doctrine.

 

[beloved57]

How about pantos. Jesus died for everyone.

παντὸς pantos

everyone

Read the OP

 

[Derf]

Yeah right, thats sound doctrine.

Yes, that was my <sarcastic> point. Now go look in the mirror.

 

[beloved57]

Yes, that was my <sarcastic> point. Now go look in the mirror.

Do you want to discuss the Op or are you scared ?

 

[Bradley D]

Read the OP

I did.

 

[Derf]

Do you want to discuss the Op or are you scared ?

I already did. I said you added to scripture to make your point. You have yet to answer my challenge.

 

[beloved57]

I did.

So what were the points I made using scripture ? Did you notice that ?

 

[beloved57]

I already did. I said you added to scripture to make your point. You have yet to answer my challenge.

So you call that discussion of my points ? I dont think so. Tell me how did I make my points with scripture,.

 

[OZOS]

Tell me how did I make my points with scripture,.

You didn't. You have no point. You are pointless.

 

[Derf]

So you call that discussion of my points ? I dont think so. Tell me how did I make my points with scripture,.

That would certainly be necessary, since you don’t know how you made your points with scripture.

 

[beloved57]

That would certainly be necessary, since you don’t know how you made your points with scripture.

As I thought !

 

[Derf]

As I thought !

Good! We’re in agreement that you have no idea what scripture really says.

 

[DAN P]

Yeah right, thats sound doctrine.

And if you had CHECKED the Greek text , the KJV , RSV and ESV all translated PAS , the Greek word MAN , EVERYONE and that makes you WRONG .

The Greek word DEATH / THANATOS and EVERY MAN , is min the GENITIVE CASE , SINGULAR , and MASCULINE !

The GENITIVE CASE means that Christ did taste death and the GENITIVE CASE is descripting , TASTE DEATH .

Bybthe way way the Greek word SHOULD TASTE / GEUOMAI is in the Greek AORIST TENSE , MID VOICE , and in the SUBJECTIVE MOOD and means you are WRONG , so BETTER get a GRIP .

dan p

 

[beloved57]

And if you had CHECKED the Greek text , the KJV , RSV and ESV all translated PAS , the Greek word MAN , EVERYONE and that makes you WRONG .

The Greek word DEATH / THANATOS and EVERY MAN , is min the GENITIVE CASE , SINGULAR , and MASCULINE !

The GENITIVE CASE means that Christ did taste death and the GENITIVE CASE is descripting , TASTE DEATH .

Bybthe way way the Greek word SHOULD TASTE / GEUOMAI is in the Greek AORIST TENSE , MID VOICE , and in the SUBJECTIVE MOOD and means you are WRONG , so BETTER get a GRIP .

dan p

You not making sense sir.

 

[DAN P]

You not making sense sir.

The writer of Hebrews wrote Heb 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now honestly, did the writer write here that Christ tasted death for all mankind without exception here ? Nope he did not. In the original man isnt in the verse:

τὸν δὲ βραχύ τι παρ᾽ ἀγγέλους ἠλαττωμένον βλέπομεν Ἰησοῦν διὰ τὸ πάθημα τοῦ θανάτου δόξῃ καὶ τιμῇ ἐστεφανωμένον ὅπως χάριτι θεοῦ ὑπὲρ παντὸς γεύσηται θανάτου

Man was added by the translators. The word pas can refer to all the whole, the sum total of all the group intended. Context is important n determining the group that the writer has in mind. Lets look at the very next verse 10

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Bingo, its the many sons that e suffered and died for, or tasted death for, The word many polys:

many, much, large, many, numerous, great

He tasted death for many Sons, a great number of them, everyone of them. This is important,, because later in the same epistle the writer uses the adjective many again to denote who He tasted death for Heb 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

See to taste death back in Heb 2:9 is the exact same thing as " to bear the sins of many;" again, the many Sons of vs 10, everyone of the sons is who He tasted death for, not all of mankind without exception.

See Isa 53:11

He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

And from the Greek words , SHOULD TASTE / is in the Greek AORIST TENSE and that means Jesus did die for all .\\

And you say that the Greek word for MAN / ANTHROPOS was added , and do you KNOW WHY ?

In WILLIAM D MOIUNCE book on GREEK for the REST of US , he explains why some translation are different and why theybvare diffucult to translate . Purchase it from AMAZON for $25 , and begin to learn SOMETHING about translations ,

But you will not , because you learned it from a DISPENSATIONIST , RIGHT ?

dan p

 

[beloved57]

And from the Greek words , SHOULD TASTE / is in the Greek AORIST TENSE and that means Jesus did die for all .\\

And you say that the Greek word for MAN / ANTHROPOS was added , and do you KNOW WHY ?

In WILLIAM D MOIUNCE book on GREEK for the REST of US , he explains why some translation are different and why theybvare diffucult to translate . Purchase it from AMAZON for $25 , and begin to learn SOMETHING about translations ,

But you will not , because you learned it from a DISPENSATIONIST , RIGHT ?

dan p

Why do you spam up a thread ?