egyptianmuslim
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Allah is like God... I can say that money is your allah...
Stoning of the Devil
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egyptianmuslim
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You like isis and taliban would like to put oil on the fire.
The Lord Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, as foretold by the prophets. He died for sin, reconciling the world. He was raised for your justification. If you believed, you would be sealed by the Holy Spirit.
Islam is just as false as Mormonism, only much more violent.
Islam is just as false as Mormonism, only much more violent.
CherubRam
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Making up stories does not make it true.
Unless they are your own stories.
CherubRam
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Isaiah 52:6
Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I.”
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CherubRam
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Do you have anything intelligent to say?
CherubRam
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Christians can not reason with Muslims when they believe the bible is a book full of lies.
Yes, I do. I assumed a certain amount of intelligence on your part. I was mistaken. My apologies.
So here is an explanation: Your stories, specifically the ones in the New Testament, appear to be "made up stories" , just as others people's stories look made up to you.
CherubRam
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Again: Do you have anything intelligent to say? Lets see some examples?
egyptianmuslim
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Jesus ........peace be upon him.
egyptianmuslim
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Torah is commandments of God to Moses(puh) and it is free of lies and still in between hand of Jews
egyptianmuslim
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Why did they ask God for personal name, are there many Gods to distinct Moses's God from them.
lukecash12
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Either that, or you're greatly mistaken yourself. The word pagan comes from the Middle to Late Latin paganus, a term used by the early church fathers up to and beyond Augustine; itself derived from the Classical Latin pagus which was mostly used as Roman military jargon, generally referring to people dwelling out on the countryside or as a pejorative for the ignorant.
The standard definition of paganus evolved from the pejorative sense specifically into a general group of people, those people being anyone ignorant of the truth of Christianity. Paganus acquired it's religious connotations by the mid 4th century, when Augustine in particular made this usage very popular with the book De Civitate Dei contra Paganos ("The City of God against the Pagans"), not long after the sack of Rome. In the Renaissance this term was taken up again, and it has been used in such a manner up to this day.
So, people who aren't Christian are the very definition of pagan, according to sixteen hundred years worth of history. But let's return to the thread topic:
Just from reading Job it is apparent that God is aware of, and in control of, everything.
Is there some thematic message God is sending? I think we've merely being myopic here, as Islam accounts for around one billion pagans, but that leaves us with five billion other pagans and who knows how many reported Christians that don't truly have the pleasure of knowing Him. Also, I somehow doubt that God would waste such concentrated effort sending a message to people who are so resistant to Him that they've rewritten His own story, making Him their own minor character in it.
As a punishment? The punishment in Revelation 20:11-15 is punishment enough, I'm sure. But let's also examine this from a redemptive perspective, too: if God saves infants before the age of accountability, it may be that He is saving people from Islam. God is at the same time just and loving.
So I stand corrected. By the "correct", Christian definition of Pagan, they themselves are not pagans. I was using the term to mean what Webster defines it as:
heathen 1; especially : a follower of a polytheistic religion (as in ancient Rome)
CherubRam
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Because Mohammad did not know the personal name of God, that is how we know he was a false prophet. By knowing Yahwah is the true God we can know that Allah and other manmade gods are false.
Exodus 3:13-15.
13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?”
14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.”
15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah, the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' That’s my name forever, the name by which I’m to be remembered, from generation to generation.”
Isaiah 52:6
Therefore my people will know my name; therefore in that day they will know that it is I who foretold it. Yes, it is I.”
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The Lord Jesus Christ is God. The Holy Bible, which was written only by Israelite prophets (w/Luke the proselyte) is in contention with the Koran. They are in compatible. They can not both be true, from a logic point of view.
Do you put your trust in the finished work of God?
CherubRam
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Yahshua said he was "a god" from the kingdom of heaven. John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?