Actually, ad hominem is about attacking the person WHEN addressing the question. Whereas, I was not putting one in place of the other.That's what makes it an Ad Hominem Fallacy, as has already been observed.
An Ad Hominem is attacking the person instead of his arguments. That's you.Actually, ad hominem is about attacking the person WHEN addressing the question.
Not me, but Scripture itself. Try again.Peter was not the first "Pope". Never was no matter how much you say that he was.
Try again.Even in Acts 15 we can see that Peter had given up leadership of the church in Jerusalem to James who was not even one of the twelve.
Go ahead and follow your false recently-invented, man-made non-Catholic sect all the way to the lake of fire. (See how that works?)Go ahead and follow your false "vicar" all the way to the lake of fire.
Of course. Catholics pray directly to God all the time. But we also ask our Christian brothers and sisters for their intercession as well. One in no way rules out the other.
Dear meshak,
I don't know what is so hard to believe for everyone. Once more, I will explain. God and Jesus are like two Identical glasses/vessels Who are filled with almost the same amount of wine. The one with the bit more wine is God. The other glass is Jesus. So they are basically the same, but different. Do you all finally understand. Why would Jesus pray to His Father in the garden before the Romans took Him away, if He was God, He would not pray to Himself. C'mon!!
Michael
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God is a Spirit, that Spirit was in Jesus the man. The man Jesus was not God, but was our Redeemer, the King of Israel.
As the son of man, Jesus prayed to the Father.
As the son of God, Jesus was God.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
You're saying that you should be on the list?Of course, you're wrong!
God is a Spirit, that Spirit was in Jesus the man. The man Jesus was not God, but was our Redeemer, the King of Israel.
As the son of man, Jesus prayed to the Father.
As the son of God, Jesus was God.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Originally Posted by MichaelCadry View Post
Dear meshak,
I don't know what is so hard to believe for everyone. Once more, I will explain. God and Jesus are like two Identical glasses/vessels Who are filled with almost the same amount of wine.
Consider that the spirit in Jesus was the express image of the Father, not God. The spirit became flesh to die for us. God can not die but his created express image son could.
Consider that the spirit in Jesus was the express image of the Father, not God. The spirit became flesh to die for us. God can not die but his created express image son could.
Jesus' Spirit is the Spirit of God.
There is, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit yet,
these three are ONE.
There is only one Spirit.
Jesus is God the Father with a body.
Yes, there is One Universal Infinite Spirit.
So Jesus sent himself, prayed to himself, and ascended to himself after his resurrection. - yeah, that makes sense.
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pj
Yes, there is One Universal Infinite Spirit.
So Jesus sent himself, prayed to himself, and ascended to himself after his resurrection. - yeah, that makes sense.
:think:
But, you think your UFO Cult (The Urantia Book) makes
more sense?
I was able to find some cached pages online of the list. Not sure when I last updated it, but I found this one from 7/16/12. Again, let me know if I am missing someone.
Here is the list as of 10/15/13:
The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians)
1) Keypurr
2) Pierac
3) csuguy
4) adopted son 77
5) Paul McNabb (Mormon)
6) Seydlitz77 (Mormon)
7) Martin.Harris (Mormon)
8) Elected4ever
9) Squeaky
10) Aner
11) Lazy Afternoon
12) truebeliever7
13) jerzy
14) krystyna
15) Krsto
16) Oatmeal
17) meshak
18) jamie
Religious Zealots (saved by works crowd):
1) Rightglory
2) Spitfire
3) Evoken
4) chrysostom
5) rbdeli
6) RC_Eagle
7) The Reverent One
8) annabenedetti
9) The Barbarian
10) patricius79
11) Yahushuan
12) IXOYE - makes salvation and born again two separate events
13) graceandpeace - makes salvation and born again two separate events
14) Cruciform
15) Truthsetsfree
16) genuineoriginal "Salvation is given only to those who merit it by pleasing God"
The 'Paul is a godless liar' crowd (Ebionites) (**this crowd also believes works are necessary for salvation)
1) Glenda (Glenda also denies the deity of Christ, she is trying to get to the bottom of the Lake of Fire)
2) jeremysdemo
Miscellaneous
1) Freelight (spiritualist/universalist)
If you are on this list and you repent of your heresy, or if you find my categorization of your beliefs is in error, just post and let us know.
If you feel someone needs to be added to the list, either post or PM me. In order to speed things along, if you can post a link to one of the offending party's posts reflecting their heresy, that would be greatly appreciated. Also, a person must have a decent amount of posts and have been around for a few months at least to be considered for the list. I don't want to throw every one post wonder who wanders through here onto the list. After all, this is TOL's list and if the person isn't a regular visitor, they don't make the cut.
Thanks for any help or feedback.
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