Salvation: all have sinned

[beloved57]

Of course they were. Adam and Eve had natural bodies with a natural mind. The natural mind is not subject to God's instruction nor can it be. The mind was designed that way.

We are expected to overcome our natural mind and be converted to a spiritual mind.

A spiritual mind is the result of a spiritual birth as a natural mind is the result of a natural birth !

 

[jamie]

A spiritual mind is the result of a spiritual birth...

Not true. Jesus said, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit."

It's easy to tell when a person is born of flesh ... they bleed. Jesus was born of the flesh and he bled until the day he died. And then he was born of the Spirit by a resurrection from the dead.

Now Jesus doesn't bleed. His life is inherent, it's not in the form of blood as ours is.

 

[beloved57]

Not true. Jesus said, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit."

It's easy to tell when a person is born of flesh ... they bleed. Jesus was born of the flesh and he bled until the day he died. And then he was born of the Spirit by a resurrection from the dead.

Now Jesus doesn't bleed.

Yes it's true!

 

[jamie]

Yes it's true!

No, you're ad-libbing. Stick to the script.

 

[beloved57]

No, you're ad-libbing. Stick to the script.

You don't believe the truth!

 

[jamie]

You don't believe the truth!

"You can't handle the truth." (Col. Jessup)