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Rubio: sodomites are born that way
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Which is all irrelevant to the fact that no one is forced to act on desires they have.
Jedidiah
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You find beauty where you find it. It's beyond your control.
Matrimonial desire is for matrimonial relations is for matrimony.
What or who you find beautiful need not be aligned with matrimonial desire. Matrimonial desire is not the same as the crass and question-begging "sexual desire," which connotes determinism, and presumes, that a wandering, unreined matrimonial desire, knows exactly where it's going and what it's doing. :nono:
IOW, or i.e., you can find all sorts of things or people beautiful, without wanting to engage in matrimonial relations with it/them.
Matrimonial desire is for matrimonial relations is for matrimony.
What or who you find beautiful need not be aligned with matrimonial desire. Matrimonial desire is not the same as the crass and question-begging "sexual desire," which connotes determinism, and presumes, that a wandering, unreined matrimonial desire, knows exactly where it's going and what it's doing. :nono:
IOW, or i.e., you can find all sorts of things or people beautiful, without wanting to engage in matrimonial relations with it/them.
Arthur Brain
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Maybe so but then it would be a good idea to quit with the nonsense that people "choose" to be homosexual to begin with or that straight folk can suddenly entertain it...
People choose to have sex, they choose to go with or dismiss desires they have.
Arthur Brain
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Jedidiah
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Perhaps you just don't appreciate the human capacity to become corrupted.
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
1 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV) (for Patrick, again).
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
1 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV) (for Patrick, again).
Arthur Brain
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No, it's not that at all. As a heterosexual you can be morally corrupt by sleeping around, taking advantage and having affairs or whatever. It doesn't change your orientation though.
kiwimacahau
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Indeed it does not. Homosexuality is no more inherently sinful than is heterosexuality.
TracerBullet
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ex-gays are taught a lot of catch phrases to avoid saying that they were homosexual but are now heterosexual.
TracerBullet
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Racists aren't ashamed of their prejudices either
another example of a right winger bashing the republicans
when
everyone knows that the democratic party
supports abortion
supports same sex marriage
and
the republican party does not
oatmeal
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Well, that is a nasty mistake
Jedidiah
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Oh ! Blind faith...how comforting for you.
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
1 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV) (for Patrick, again again).
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
1 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV) (for Patrick, again again).
Some people are born with a bad temper. That doesn't mean they aren't responsible if they slug someone.
So the argument that people are born that way, which is very likely true, is not justification for the behavior.
So the argument that people are born that way, which is very likely true, is not justification for the behavior.
Arthur Brain
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Er, no, simple fact. I'm straight and could no more entertain a homosexual encounter than I could find the notion of hacking my head off with a spatula in any way appealing either.
Jedidiah
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Right. As you say, the thought of it is "abhorrent."
Arthur Brain
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For me yes, and as such impossible to entertain let alone act on.
Jedidiah
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For you, it's "abhorrent," even "to entertain let alone act on."
