You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.
All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and justification. What do you think that he did it all for himself?
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
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You are in denial of the Gospel and justification by faith.
All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for our salvation and justification. What do you think that he did it all for himself?
really because then you cant say this:
Because if the law was abolished it is no longer able to point out sin...as without it there is NO KNOWLEDGE OF SIN
So there is no need of a savior...
You best stick to what you conceded...the Law remains written in the hearts and minds...we want to please Him...
and please Him by doing His will His work He gave us...not our own...because we are saved by Him...not our works...
We want to...If you love Him...
Actually what He did was vindicate His Father...”It is finished” was proving His Father was worthy of worship...perfect PLEASING worship...and now as a side effect or a by product of that mission our belief in Him proving that SAVES US...
His death proved whosoever believes that Yah so loves the world will have eternal life...
When Jesus said, "It is finished" what he meant was that he had done all that he could do for the salvation of fallen man. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
The only ones that are going to be saved are those that believe that Jesus has provided salvation for them. They have ceased from their own works and are resting in Christ work for them.
"For he that has entered into his rest, he also has ceased from his own works, as God did from his" Hebrews 4:10.
I don't think that you are there.
The law has been abolished only for Christians. The unsaved are under it and will be judged by it.
God is only pleased with Jesus Christ. We are pleasing to God by being "In Christ". The law whether written or in our heart will not save or justify you. Jesus and Jesus alone is the savior and justifier.
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Just telling the truth RP.
That is your silly myth. The BIBLE does not say that.
Christ was NOT righteous BECAUSE He kept the law. He was ALREADY the righteous God.
Jesus was NOT righteous because He did not sin. Jesus did not sin because He was righteous.
You have it BACKWARDS!
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You are:
- Confused
- Wrong
- Repeating FALSEHOODS
Jesus did many things; very little that you understand.
and once completed we live accordingly...it is not once saved always saved...belief is not enough as even satan and the demons believes
you missed verse 9 where it is clear a Sabbath keeping remains for His people...do you consider yourself His?...
And how did God enter His rest? HE CEASED (SABBATHED...you do know Sabbath means cessation yes?) from His works...He did something NOT just believed or had faith
And look at verse 11 “Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.”
You have to be diligent to enter a faith? Diligent belief? Ha
And how do you fail to enter? DISOBEDIENCE...hmmm by NOT DOING...as the Israelites did not do something thus did NOT enter their promised rest...
See NOT doing His will reveals a lack of faith or a false belief...
none of us are in that promised land yet...so be diligent ok?
He is coming again with rewards for your WORKS...not faith...read revelations...there He is quite clear “Blessed is he who KEEPS the words of this book” NOT he who has faith...
Oh and “My reward is with Me to give to everyone according to his WORK”...see work NOT faith...
So be diligent persevere to the end...finish the race says Paul...John is clear
“Here are they that KEEP the commandments of Yah and the faith OF Yahushua”
Yup...please read that last chapter...
“Blessed are those who DO His commandments that they may have the right to the tree of life....and may enter through the gates into the city...but outside are dogs...and whoever loves and practices a lie”...your “law is abolished” is a lie
Dont be a dog...dont add or take away from the Word...
ALL HAVE SINNED...thus ALL ARE JUDGED...because the Law remains as the standard to judge with...and the law must remain to reveal sin to us...
How else do you know you are led by the Spirit or “in Him?”
Abolished only for Christians...LOL they are the only ones that WANT to keep it because they realize they have been saved...
how do you know you are in christ...how does the world know?...
That is true...written in our heart we WANT to keep the Law because Yahushua ALONE saved and justified us...
And its by this Law we are to die and live in Him...as He did OBEDIENT TO HIS FATHERS WILL
Is a jewish lie...false testimony...
Titus 1:14 “...pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the merely human commands of those who reject the truth.”
Ok?
beloved57
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Thats your canned belief and it's dishonor to Christ and glorys in man.
No matter how much scripture that I show you, you still cannot believe that the law has been abolished.
"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith is come, we are no longer under the schoolmaster" Galatians 3:24,25.
To be under the law is to be under a curse, Galatians 3:10.
because I hunger for bread and you give me stone...and jewish lies
so when you graduate from your schoolmaster all you were taught is abolished? You don’t need to use it? Or can change it?
As if He counters His Father’s will..
Yes we are no longer under a curse...in Him we are not cursed...but lawful duh
The law is not removed its curse is...
Idolater
"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Right from the start, the Church was known for 'closed marriages,' which is the most important part of abstaining from fornication Hebrews 13:4 KJV. (Pagan marriage was more likely to be 'open.') Nobody sacrifices to idols anymore, and nobody consumes blood, and as for things strangled, idk, is that a typical way that abattoirs slaughter livestock for meat? I don't think so.
and now the church teaches some are not to marry
oh really?
rare meat...tartar...blood pudding...etc
right is your CLEAN meat killed kosher? (please don’t argue that killing a pig kosher and draining all its blood and not sacrificing it to idols make swine clean to eat...)
And the bigger point remains namely rules were in place since OT times and remain even after the cross...despite the JEWISH LIES and false witness that Stephen and Paul taught the cross abolished the law
Slower-know your/Pate's own "argument."
No, you missed it. I have never argued, that the law was followed/kept/observed, "post cross," as a basis for justification. My argument is based upon the faulty, made up premise, that some promulgate, such as Pate, that the holy law of God was abolished/destroyed/eliminated/done away with/made void, at the cross. Neh-the law still exists today, for the purpose for which it was given(explained by me/others, eloquently on other threads)-but not for the purpose of justification, attaining righteousness.
Good day to you sir, and may the LORD God rain lightning bolts upon you, and that stupid hat.
It seems that you have been dishonest about your own faith.
You remind me of an old hard headed Jew. Those old hard headed Jews followed Paul everywhere that he went and persecuted him. Like you they could not believe that the law had been abolished. To them the law was the way, the truth and the life. They said that the law was the light that lighted every man.
To be under the law is to be under a curse.
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10.
The reason that they are under a curse is because the law is in conflict with the Gospel and justification by faith.
In the Gospel Jesus justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5. Not the law.
In the Gospel believers are given the Holy Spirit. Not the law.
In the Gospel we are justified by Christ, Not the law.
In the Gospel we are born again by the word of God. Not the law.
In the Gospel we are reconciled to God, Not by the law.
Paul wrote, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believes" Romans 10:4.
The law has been replaced with the Holy Spirit.
Pate: The law was abolished/destroyed/made void at the cross, and no longer exists, but, it still shows the lost what sin is,today,and serves as as a schoolmaster to lead the lost to Christ, today, although today the law no longer exists.
Pate has either dementia, or demon infested-no other option, as no sane person can spam what he does.
Get Pate another straight jacket for Christmas.