REPORT: TOL Statement of faith
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All deserved.Zakath said:
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Zakath today was not a good day for you. You said some really stupid things.
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Zakath said:I think linking your website's "theological views" so closely to that of any particular church suggests a level of control that you may or may not intend.
But "it's your party, you can cry if you want to..."
It is a fairly generic statement based on other similar statements. Why reinvent the wheel?
Charity
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Can we count the comings again
Can we count the comings again
GREETINGS:
Can we look into the old testerment first concerning those who looked to the coming of the christ, that there souls may be saved, those who feared the lord and looked apon his name. Still going to dust and not yet receiving there promise. Luke :2 68 Blessed be the lord god of Isreal; for he has visited and redemed his people and has raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of David.
Books were opened and judgement made concerning those who beleived on his name This is an event that happened in period as Matthew :27.51 the graves open and many rise. this can only have taken place due to a Judgment.
Danial: 12 And many of them who slept in the dust of the earth awake some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting torment.
Very clear that this is not yet a period of perfection , people still needing to be made rightous One would asume perfection on a rising soul, maybe not so , as some rising heading to destruction .
1 Corinthians : paul starts with the comon beleif the cross all beleive that christ died and rose again three days later, he has there ears now then he includes this resurrection of life in conjuntion with the crucifixtion and rising again,
We all agree that christ should be the first man to rise from the dead, one problem how can some one that has not risen yet rise others from the dead,
lazerth and others Moses he has to be the first , even if you thougt they were sleeping still he is the firstfruits of them that slept; still first;;
( christ said I am the resurection of life )
I call this a veiled coming that sould be found only by his called and chosen .
1 theory= to extend to a future experiance, or
2 = to go back and rise him for those before, having not to pervert Gods grace to them and alow them perish ,
1 corinthians 15: 17&18 so if christ be not risen then neither are the dead .so before any dead apear he would have to be dead and back for god is not a lier . Concerning the elected one, whos soul will be made an offering to justfy many his soul will see his seed,
Reverlation 5 The Lamb opening the seals in the presance of god and hevenly hosts the REDEMED !!!!! praising him for he is worthy to open the seals,
5th seal they are still waiting for the rest of the 144000 to be completed having white robs given to them.
6th seal numbers complete
Reverlation:7:17The lamb feeds them now and leads them unto the living fountains of water:
Reverlation 22.17 And the spirit and the bride say, come and let him that heareth say And him that is athirst come. and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. clear that the lamb before opening seals had completed in redeming souls, later in 6th seal he leads to the life giving water. .
MY Thoughts
The cleaner came : made a contract that he would clean our room so we shut the door and went and slept in another room waiting for his coming,
We grew old and told our children the cleaner is coming, they grew old and many generations passed in wait off the cleaner.
One day a child found the contract and read ,There are some here now that will not pass away before they see my coming, so the child ran out side past the garded door to the window and peered through, at that moment he had come for him .
The kingdom of god cometh not by observation:
Neither shall they say Lo here Lo there
for behold the kingdom of god is withinyou.
and he said to the disciples,
The days will come, when ye shall desire
to see one of the days of the son of man,
and ye shall not see it.
Having seen that the promise to the old testerment people was his coming,.as simple as it sounds some one cant leave unless they have come first
John 16 28 I come forth from the father , and am come into the world AGAIN, I leave the world and go to the father .
his deciples said unto him, Lo speakest no proverb.
Now are we sure that thou knowest all things,
and needest not that man should ask thee by this
We believe that thou camest forth from god.
Jesus answered them, Do ye NOW believe?
Other interesting verses He whom god rose from the dead man have taken and hung on a tree,
Though we preach God rose christ from the dead we are found to be false witness and our preaching is vain,
Dont tell anyone of the vison untill the son of man be risen from the dead AGAIN ,
Remember reverlations verses as they read the first Lamb praised for redeming those , second Lamb feeds and leads to the fountains of water, and those who will, will follow, god dosnt put things back to frount we do
Some coming verses may refure to a coming of relization. So he would not need to come as a theif , John 16 31
I have come to get that witch was lost, that one goes back,
We cant turn up at the wedding feast if we have the dates wrong and that is exactley what the Antichrists are all about,
Even confuse you as to clothing yourself ready.They only prevent his coming for you
2 Thess 2 and you perish not from lack of trying but lack of understanding..
Charity
Can we count the comings again
GREETINGS:
Can we look into the old testerment first concerning those who looked to the coming of the christ, that there souls may be saved, those who feared the lord and looked apon his name. Still going to dust and not yet receiving there promise. Luke :2 68 Blessed be the lord god of Isreal; for he has visited and redemed his people and has raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of David.
Books were opened and judgement made concerning those who beleived on his name This is an event that happened in period as Matthew :27.51 the graves open and many rise. this can only have taken place due to a Judgment.
Danial: 12 And many of them who slept in the dust of the earth awake some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting torment.
Very clear that this is not yet a period of perfection , people still needing to be made rightous One would asume perfection on a rising soul, maybe not so , as some rising heading to destruction .
1 Corinthians : paul starts with the comon beleif the cross all beleive that christ died and rose again three days later, he has there ears now then he includes this resurrection of life in conjuntion with the crucifixtion and rising again,
We all agree that christ should be the first man to rise from the dead, one problem how can some one that has not risen yet rise others from the dead,
lazerth and others Moses he has to be the first , even if you thougt they were sleeping still he is the firstfruits of them that slept; still first;;
( christ said I am the resurection of life )
I call this a veiled coming that sould be found only by his called and chosen .
1 theory= to extend to a future experiance, or
2 = to go back and rise him for those before, having not to pervert Gods grace to them and alow them perish ,
1 corinthians 15: 17&18 so if christ be not risen then neither are the dead .so before any dead apear he would have to be dead and back for god is not a lier . Concerning the elected one, whos soul will be made an offering to justfy many his soul will see his seed,
Reverlation 5 The Lamb opening the seals in the presance of god and hevenly hosts the REDEMED !!!!! praising him for he is worthy to open the seals,
5th seal they are still waiting for the rest of the 144000 to be completed having white robs given to them.
6th seal numbers complete
Reverlation:7:17The lamb feeds them now and leads them unto the living fountains of water:
Reverlation 22.17 And the spirit and the bride say, come and let him that heareth say And him that is athirst come. and whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. clear that the lamb before opening seals had completed in redeming souls, later in 6th seal he leads to the life giving water. .
MY Thoughts
The cleaner came : made a contract that he would clean our room so we shut the door and went and slept in another room waiting for his coming,
We grew old and told our children the cleaner is coming, they grew old and many generations passed in wait off the cleaner.
One day a child found the contract and read ,There are some here now that will not pass away before they see my coming, so the child ran out side past the garded door to the window and peered through, at that moment he had come for him .
The kingdom of god cometh not by observation:
Neither shall they say Lo here Lo there
for behold the kingdom of god is withinyou.
and he said to the disciples,
The days will come, when ye shall desire
to see one of the days of the son of man,
and ye shall not see it.
Having seen that the promise to the old testerment people was his coming,.as simple as it sounds some one cant leave unless they have come first
John 16 28 I come forth from the father , and am come into the world AGAIN, I leave the world and go to the father .
his deciples said unto him, Lo speakest no proverb.
Now are we sure that thou knowest all things,
and needest not that man should ask thee by this
We believe that thou camest forth from god.
Jesus answered them, Do ye NOW believe?
Other interesting verses He whom god rose from the dead man have taken and hung on a tree,
Though we preach God rose christ from the dead we are found to be false witness and our preaching is vain,
Dont tell anyone of the vison untill the son of man be risen from the dead AGAIN ,
Remember reverlations verses as they read the first Lamb praised for redeming those , second Lamb feeds and leads to the fountains of water, and those who will, will follow, god dosnt put things back to frount we do
Some coming verses may refure to a coming of relization. So he would not need to come as a theif , John 16 31
I have come to get that witch was lost, that one goes back,
We cant turn up at the wedding feast if we have the dates wrong and that is exactley what the Antichrists are all about,
Even confuse you as to clothing yourself ready.They only prevent his coming for you
2 Thess 2 and you perish not from lack of trying but lack of understanding..
Charity
Charity
New member
Mathew 27 .19Charity said:
When he was set down on the judgement seat, his wife sent unto him, saying,
Have nothing to do with that just man;for i have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.
But the cheif preiests and elders, PERSUADED the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus.
The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of twain, will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
Pilate said unto them,What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ?They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
And the governor said, Why what evil hath he done?But they cried out more saying, Let him be crucified.
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took Water, washed his hands before the multitude, saying I am inocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it,
Then answered the people , and said His blood be on us, and on our CHILDREN
Paul changed sides , so can we, understanding is to depart from evil.
Charity.
:darwinsm: I see the UN Committee for Reputation Assignment Propriety (aka UNCRAP) has convened.godrulz said:
Aimiel
Well-known member
Simple, ask the Christians on TOL to report anyone whose profile proclaims, "Christian," who isn't posting threads which are in agreement with the doctrine stated in the Statement of Faith. If they don't retract their post, they'll have to be changed to something other than Christian, until they accpet the tenets of the Christian faith.
