REPORT: God's plan of salvation

marke

Well-known member
Hi Nick, I agree with you about the incident of Jonah, though not because it happened literally but because of Numbers 12:6. We read there instructions from HaShem with regards to His prophets. He said, "If there be a prophet among you, I the Lord will make Myself known to him in a vision and will speak to him in a vision. That's what happened to Jonah. He never even left his bedroom to take a sheep to Nineveh. It was all in a dream. To run away from his mission as a prophet, he went down to Joppa, took a ship to Tarshish to hide from the Lord. Once in the ship, he went down in the ship lay down and continued fast asleep while the dream proceed. When he woke up, he considered his dream and took God's will for granted as Nineveh was concerned. Then, he went one with his prophetic mission; went to Nineveh and Nineveh was saved. But, literally, he was never in the belly of the fish.
There is absolutely no basis for saying that Jonah did not spend three days in the fish when Jesus said he did.
 

marke

Well-known member
Have you ever seen the words elect and call in the Bible.


Have you read that all mankind is born dead to God and alive only to sin?
Spiritually dead.
What does dead mean to you?

Have you read John's speaking about the sheep?
John Ch 10:26, '..but you do not believe because you are not my sheep'.

Brother, read John Ch10 ,The Good Shepherd.

The Good Sherpherd calls his own sheep and then they follow him.
All sinners will be enlightened by the Holy Ghost at some point in their life (John 1:9) Those who believe and receive the light will be given the power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). Those who reject the light will be damned (John 3:19). God did not design hell for humans, but for the devil and his angels. God is not willing that any should perish (2 Peter 3:8-10), which is why God provided Jesus as a propitiation for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2), giving God the right to forgive sins of any and all who would come to Him for forgiveness and salvation.

The wicked who reject the light prove they are not among those God chose in Christ from the foundation of the world, but their condemnation is not a pre-determined judgment of God based upon His will alone without regard to their rejection of salvation. We know this because those who reject the light given them after birth and innocence will be rejected of God and have their names removed from the Lamb's Book of Life (Revelation 22:19).
 

marke

Well-known member
Whatever happened to the 'call of God'? God calls dead sinners to faith in Christ. God's calling is the missing truth in the plan of salvation today. Dead sinners cannot accept any gift from God. First God calls them to life (new birth) and out of this new birth they have faith in Christ. Only God's calling gives the glory to God for salvation, but the very popular 'accept Christ gospel' is the product of man's pride wanting to exalt his 'free choice'.
God first enlightens the lost sinner (John 1:9). Then those who receive the light are given the power to become the sons of God (John 1:12). Those who reject the light are condemned to hell.
 

Puppet

BANNED
Banned
I can't see my puppet strings but I can't see far enough to see who is tugging them.
Sweat drips down from them and it tastes like the sweet Jesus.
He must be saving me.
Praise Jesus He leads my "can't do not'in" wooden body.
 

Catholic Crusader

Kyrie Eleison
Banned
"Have you accepted God’s gift of salvation?"
The book to read:

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I have to second that motion. This is the book to read:

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wholearmor

Member
"The question is, 'Have you accepted God’s gift of salvation?' If you have, then you are free from the debt of sin...'

Actually, that is incorrect, the world was freed of its sin debt 2,000 years ago at the cross.
(2 Corinthians 5:19 KJB)
(19) To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

"Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."

That is also incorrect. That includes works (confessing with your mouth), and can be boasted about, so that shows Paul was writing to Israel, not the body of Christ.
(Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB)
(8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

By grace are ye saved, not by confessing with your mouth.
Grace and works are anathema.
 
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