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No. I do not make circular statements like that.Did you not say you have acknowledged God in this Forum in order to acknowledge Him?
No. I do not make circular statements like that.Did you not say you have acknowledged God in this Forum in order to acknowledge Him?
You were circular in post #597. Read it.No. I do not make circular statements like that.
Nope... nothing circular there at all.You were circular in post #597. Read it.
#597, "I've acknowledged God's word such that anyone can see that acknowledgement."Nope... nothing circular there at all.
P.S. I read what I write.
Your reading comprehension is zero.#597, "I've acknowledged God's word such that anyone can see that acknowledgement."
You used a verb to define itself as a noun form. Anyone can see that is circular.
#597, "I've acknowledged God's word such that anyone can see that acknowledgement."
You used a verb to define itself as a noun form. Anyone can see that is circular.
Your reading comprehension is zero.
There is nothing circular in that statement.
A five year old is incapable of committing a crime, let alone a capital one so it's absolutely true, not false in any way. This is why we have sensible laws that take into account age where it comes to actions. A five year old is an infant, not anywhere near enough developed to be held as accountable as an adult and your feeble mantra of "saying it doesn't make it so" does not help you here. Everything is against your position here, everything rational at any rate including basic logic and common sense. The Bible doesn't help you either. You'll find no verse that supports your twisted posit. Are the laws correct as they stand whereby an adult having sex with a ten year old is guilty of child rape? Are you going to just ignore that again? Your latter little "quip" is sadly ironic.False.
If a five-year-old commits a capital crime, he should be executed. So should anyone else who commits a capital crime.
False.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
Though, to you, someone so deep in darkness for so long, the light must really hurt your eyes.
Hmm, do you agree with JR that children as young as five should be tried, convicted and executed for somehow committing capital crimes? Cos if that's "light" then wow, am I glad not to be part of it. Sick beyond words frankly. What say you? Or are you just gonna shuffle away from it as you have previous?
A five year old is incapable of committing a crime, let alone a capital one so it's absolutely true, not false in any way.
This is why we have sensible laws that take into account age where it comes to actions.
A five year old is an infant,
not anywhere near enough developed to be held as accountable as an adult and your feeble mantra of "saying it doesn't make it so" does not help you here.
Everything is against your position here,
everything rational at any rate including basic logic and common sense.
The Bible doesn't help you either.
You'll find no verse that supports your twisted posit.
Are the laws correct as they stand whereby an adult having sex with a ten year old is guilty of child rape?
A five year old can't commit a capital crime and the laws we have in place rightfully take age into account. That's why we have laws that protect children from the likes of what you advocate and why we have ones that rightfully prosecute an adult having sex with a ten year old for child rape because the ten year old is a minor. Something that you still fail to address and that is not "changing the topic", it's entirely relevant in relation. If you consider it righteous to execute five year old kids for "committing a capital crime" then how about a child twice that age being held accountable for having sex if they expressed their consent? As it stands they're regarded as too young to be able to do so so how about you just answer the question?If a five year old commits a capital crime, the only just punishment is the death penalty.
The laws that satisfy your corrupted conscience do not qualify as "sensible."
No, a five year old is not an infant.
A five year old is a pre-schooler.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
False.
False.
False.
I have given you the verses that are applicable. That you reject them does not mean that there are none.
Don't change the topic.
If a child commits a capital crime, he should be put to death.
A five year old can't commit a capital crime
and the laws we have in place rightfully take age into account.
That's why we have laws that protect children from the likes of what you advocate and why we have ones that rightfully prosecute an adult having sex with a ten year old for child rape because the ten year old is a minor.
"Corrupted conscience"? Yeah, I ain't perfect by any stretch but wow, calling for the execution of five year old kids is not something I'm gonna have on mine.
You have not provided any applicable Bible verses at all as outlined several times previously
and nor will you be able to,
When I used to participate in this conversation I would always refer to the two 10-year-olds who deliberately planned and carried out the murder of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_BulgerIf a child commits a capital crime, he should be put to death.
A five year old child can't commit such a crime whether male or female. The laws we have that reflect this fact are based on the obvious, such as cognitive development or at such a young age - the lack thereof. The laws we have are thankfully grounded in reason, common sense and not 'out there' religious zealotry ran amok.If a child commits a capital crime, he should be put to death.
The laws we have are unjust.
Still trying to change the subject.
Because you hate righteousness.
Yes I have, as outlined several times previously.
False.
Only if magical thinking is your thing.The proof that God exists is literally everywhere.
Wrong. Check out the Cosmic Skeptic on youtube. He was raised Catholic, an atheist in high school and got a theology degree at Oxford and found no compelling reason to believe in God. Even advanced apologists grant atheists room for uncertainty, and do not suggest skepticism is simply borne of stubbornness.Those who don't see it, don't want to see and and refuse to be shown.
What evidence suggest they destroy themselves? And, how does 9% of the population cause such havoc in the entire society? It seems nonsensical.The fact is that I do HATE homosexuals, and proudly so! Hatred toward those who willfully destroy themselves as well as the very fabric of the society in which they are allowed to persist (which results in the harm and premature death of countless others) is the most loving thing a righteous man can do.
Provide evidence that sexual abuse is the cause of homosexuality if you can. I think the evidence you may try to provide will meet the definition of propaganda more than the current psychiatric view of sexual orientation. Let's see.You say their behavior is non-violent but that's because you believe the propaganda. Homosexuals wouldn't exist (practically) if it weren't for prolonged sexual assault of young children. Is that violent enough for you? Not that your opinion counts for anything.
Your zealous and narcissistic vision of God and yourself chuckling together is telling. One of us is suffering from hubris.God does not need your understanding nor does He ask your permission. God and I both laugh together at your idiotically baseless standard of justice.
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What does the Bible say?Hmm, do you agree with JR that children as young as five should be tried, convicted and executed for somehow committing capital crimes? Cos if that's "light" then wow, am I glad not to be part of it. Sick beyond words frankly. What say you? Or are you just gonna shuffle away from it as you have previous?
Your beliefs about reality do not define reality. They are just your beliefs. Your idea of God is not God. It's just your idea of God. This is true of all of us whether we are willing to recognize it or not. Which is why we become dishonest and inhumane when we do refuse to recognize it. As you are refusing to do.It's impossible to discuss reality with someone so disconnected from reality as you are.
Just seeing words on a page will look like "word salad" to a child that has not yet learned how to read them. Fortunately, most children are willing to try and learn how. Not so for some adults.Lol. Word Salad? Need some egg?
Ad hominem much?Only if magical thinking is your thing.
Right.Wrong.
That might have something to do with Catholicism being more than half false and the fact that the closer you get to Oxford the further from the truth and reality you're probably getting, especially when it comes to theology.Check out the Cosmic Skeptic on youtube. He was raised Catholic, an atheist in high school and got a theology degree at Oxford and found no compelling reason to believe in God.
I couldn't care less what "apologists" whoever that happens to refer too, grant.Even advanced apologists grant atheists room for uncertainty, and do not suggest skepticism is simply borne of stubbornness.
It seems nonsensical because you're stubbornly stupid. (It's not anywhere near 9% of the population, by the way. You really do need to put down the propaganda bong you're smoking.)What evidence suggest they destroy themselves? And, how does 9% of the population cause such havoc in the entire society? It seems nonsensical.
They (homesexuals) didn't even deny it until maybe two or three decades ago. Before 1990 everyone knew that homosexuality was a mental disorder caused (primarily) by prolonged abuse (usually sexual) experienced between the ages of 5 and 8 years of age. NAMBLA (The North American Man Boy Love Association), an association who's very existence is criminal, knew that this was true and used it as a strategy. Their slogan was (and probably still is), "Sex before eight or it's too late!".Provide evidence that sexual abuse is the cause of homosexuality if you can.
Try peer reviewed science by BOTH Christian and pro-homo researchers that confirm eachother's work.I think the evidence you may try to provide will meet the definition of propaganda more than the current psychiatric view of sexual orientation. Let's see.
Your zealous and narcissistic vision of God and yourself chuckling together is telling. One of us is suffering from hubris.
I never made such a claim, so you're punching the air there.Your beliefs about reality do not define reality.
And yours are too.They are just your beliefs.
Nor yours.Your idea of God is not God.
SupraIt's just your idea of God.
Nonsense.This is true of all of us whether we are willing to recognize it or not. Which is why we become dishonest and inhumane when we do refuse to recognize it. As you are refusing to do.
You continue to beat straw-men. You cannot discuss facts. Do they scare you?This desperate need to pretend that you're idea of God, is God, (that you are unquestionably and undoubtably "right" about it) is making a fool of you. When a person can't be wrong they can't learn, anymore. They become unteachable. They become belligerent and dismissive in the face of any new information or perspective, and antagonistic to anyone that dares the share their own understanding with them. All in the desperate defense of their self-assumed "inerrant" righteousness.
I have no self-righteousness. I rely on the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. You cannot know Him as you reject His Word.The cure is to let go of that drug of self-righteousness and seek the divine spirit of love and forgiveness and kindness and generosity within, instead of these delusions of righteousness. But self-righteousness is very addicting, and difficult to give up. And that is sad for those who have come to depend on it so completely for their own sense of value and identity.