Reconciliation Scriptures Refutes Calvinism

Robert Pate

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I would agree with your first 3 paragraphs, but not the last two. Frankly, you have no reason to doubt her salvation, other than she is Calvinistic.

Since you consider all Calvinists to be unsaved, it would appear that everything you write about is basically a meaningless construct. You are reconciled, and yet, not reconciled. Perfect and complete and yet imperfect and incomplete.

There is no room in the Gospel for Calvinism.

If you are trusting Christ for your salvation you don't need Calvinism. All that you need is Jesus Christ and his Gospel.

It is not the Gospel plus Calvinism. It is the Gospel plus NOTHING.
 

Robert Pate

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There's a new one every day. There's like a thousand total- maybe we are just tired of proving you wrong :idunno:

Maybe you can answer the question.

If God has reconciled us and the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, then was does anyone need to be predestinated? 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
 

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Maybe you can answer the question.

If God has reconciled us and the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, then was does anyone need to be predestinated? 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

If God reconciled the world in the way you are propping it up to be, there would be no need for Hell, or even to be Christian for that matter.

Therefore, you are simply taking something out of it's meaning and using that errant understanding to call something else wrong.

We've been through this several times before.
 

Robert Pate

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If God reconciled the world in the way you are propping it up to be, there would be no need for Hell, or even to be Christian for that matter.

Therefore, you are simply taking something out of it's meaning and using that errant understanding to call something else wrong.

We've been through this several times before.

You seem to think that I wrote the scripture. I did not write the scripture. The apostle Paul wrote the scripture.

"All things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

The ministry and the word of reconciliation is the Gospel which you reject.
 

patrick jane

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If God reconciled the world in the way you are propping it up to be, there would be no need for Hell, or even to be Christian for that matter.

Therefore, you are simply taking something out of it's meaning and using that errant understanding to call something else wrong.

We've been through this several times before.

Romans 5:18 KJV
 

beloved57

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You seem to think that I wrote the scripture. I did not write the scripture. The apostle Paul wrote the scripture.

"All things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ and has given us the ministry of reconciliation. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and has committed unto us the the word of reconciliation" 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

The ministry and the word of reconciliation is the Gospel which you reject.

You didn't write scripture and you don't believe scripture.
 

Nanja

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:chuckle: just the opposite - you just don't like that the free gift is for ALL

If the free gift came upon ALL without exception than none would be condemned and have their part in the second death Rev. 21:8. For some men are under God's Wrath John 3:36!

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Robert Pate

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If the free gift came upon ALL without exception than none would be condemned and have their part in the second death Rev. 21:8. For some men are under God's Wrath John 3:36!

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The ones that are under the wrath of God are those like yourself that have rejected God's great free offer of salvation by grace through faith.
 

Brother Ducky

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The only way that you can support Calvinism is to pervert God's word. You are a typical Calvinist.

Reconciliation is a two way street. One can reconcile themselves to another party without the other parties consent. It happens all the times.

God has reconciled all of humanity to himself without their consent.

But listen very closely my lost friend, If you don't accept the reconciling hand of God you will never see heaven. Paul said, "Be reconciled unto God" 2 Corinthians 5:20.

We become reconciled unto God when we trust in the reconciling work of God's Son Jesus Christ.

If one party only is "reconciled" to another party, whatever is going on between them is not reconciliation.

If all are reconciled, Paul would be silly at best to call on others to be reconciled. If we become reconciled when we trust than we are not reconciled until we trust and not all are reconciled.
 

Epoisses

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If the free gift came upon ALL without exception than none would be condemned and have their part in the second death Rev. 21:8. For some men are under God's Wrath John 3:36!

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The free gift is accepted by faith and rejected by unbelief. Why is that so hard?

Calvinism is an elaborate system of unbelief.
 

beloved57

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The free gift is accepted by faith and rejected by unbelief. Why is that so hard?

Calvinism is an elaborate system of unbelief.

Thats a lie, those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death while they are enemies in unbelief Rom 5:10 !
 

Robert Pate

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Thats a lie, those Christ died for are reconciled to God by His death while they are enemies in unbelief Rom 5:10 !

You are taking Romans 5:10 of context.

God has reconciled us and the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.
 
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