heir
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because people like you and gT refuse to take God at His word
question for MADIsts.
- Thread starter meshak
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because people like you and gT refuse to take God at His word
The writers of the Bible were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write it.
musterion
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Jesus never wrote anything in the Bible personally.
follow paul to rome
heir
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Sadly, yes. They are religious, but lost. 2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV
musterion
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Exactly.
So how does anyone know that He wants us to follow Him (whatever they think that means)?
heir
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:doh:
Follow Paul in doctrine!
Philippians 3:17 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:13 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:2 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:7-8 KJV
God's Truth
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The Resurrection of Christ
1 Corinthians 15:1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born. 9 For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11 Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.
Notice that Paul explains how it is the same gospel preached to all that Jesus appeared to.
1 Corinthians 15:1 Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born. 9 For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11 Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.
Notice that Paul explains how it is the same gospel preached to all that Jesus appeared to.
musterion
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heir
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WRONG! The entire chapter is about resurrection and they all eventually preached resurrection! Peter and Paul don't even say the same thing about the resurrection! Notice what Peter wrote:
Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
But Paul writes:
Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
That's not the same!
"But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;" Galations 2:7
Notice the difference??
Notice the difference??
The "Kingdom Message" preached by Peter and the rest was looking forward to the day when Christ would sit on the throne of David.
God's Truth
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You are saying wrong to what is plainly written by Paul
1 Corinthians 15:11 Whether, then, it is I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.
How do you get this is different?
musterion
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Heir nailed it. Resurrection was the point here.
But if you want to prove her wrong, it's simple: show where anyone before Paul preached what he preached:
(a) both Jews and Gentiles could now be saved on the same basis of grace through faith
(b) without any works to get or stay saved
(c) completely apart from national Israel
(d) with Jews and Gentiles becoming co-equal members of Christ's Body
(e) with a heavenly (not earthly) destiny,
(f) who are impossible to ever be separated from Him.
Show all that being preached before Paul preached it, and you win.
God's Truth
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Jesus is the Word of God, and the whole Bible is the written WORD of God.
Excellent demonstration of contrasting messages and purposes! :thumb:
The Grace Message, preached by Paul to the Gentiles was preaching the Grace Gospel. That being, that by hearing the Gospel and placing one's faith in Christ one would be saved and spend eternity with God.
musterion
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That question was for Meshak.