how do you explain them?
Pope Continues Heresies About Mary
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how do you explain them?
She asked you to do it where in the scriptures?
Does it bother you that Jesus instructed to pray to the Father in His name, and doesn't mention praying to her?
you can't find common sense in the bible
you will have to look somewhere else for that
If that is what your church teaches you, then its evident to why you would put stock in apparitions of mary - both your statement there and the apparitions are designed to lead people away from God.
genuineoriginal
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Matthew 24:24 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. |
so all the catholics in mexico have been deceived?
genuineoriginal
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Maybe not every catholic has been deceived, but too many have been deceived by Marian Apparitions.
2 Corinthians 11:14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
republicanchick
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What part of Catholics don't worship Mary do you not understand?
it's been said over and over here, and amazingly, by the Catholic Church itself.
But anticatholics continue to spout off about this, knowing the Church doesn't preach we should worship Mary...
just shows how bigoted people can be, not to mention DISHONEST
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genuineoriginal
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According to your link, a cult was formed around a legend of a man that never existed.
At least that is what the Catholic clergymen have declared.
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Our Lady of Guadalupe
Nevertheless, many Mexican clergymen have historically opposed the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe. Even recently some Catholic scholars, including the former curator of the basilica, Monsignor Guillermo Schulemburg, have openly doubted the historical existence of Juan Diego. Schulemburg said in an interview that Juan Diego was "a symbol, not a reality", and that his canonization would be the “recognition of a cult. It is not recognition of the physical, real existence of a person.” Father Oscar Sanchez, in charge of Juan Diego's cause, [...] said that Father Schulenberg and two other priests who signed the letter have "zero credibility .... They have no authority."
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Our Lady of Guadalupe
Nevertheless, many Mexican clergymen have historically opposed the devotion to Our Lady of Guadalupe. Even recently some Catholic scholars, including the former curator of the basilica, Monsignor Guillermo Schulemburg, have openly doubted the historical existence of Juan Diego. Schulemburg said in an interview that Juan Diego was "a symbol, not a reality", and that his canonization would be the “recognition of a cult. It is not recognition of the physical, real existence of a person.” Father Oscar Sanchez, in charge of Juan Diego's cause, [...] said that Father Schulenberg and two other priests who signed the letter have "zero credibility .... They have no authority."
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genuineoriginal
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What part of "venerate means worship" do you not understand?
venerate
1615-25; < Latin venerātus, past participle of venerārī to solicit the goodwill of (a god), worship, revere, verbal derivative of vener-, stem of venus, presumably in its original sense “desire”; see Venus )
1615-25; < Latin venerātus, past participle of venerārī to solicit the goodwill of (a god), worship, revere, verbal derivative of vener-, stem of venus, presumably in its original sense “desire”; see Venus )
republicanchick
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what dos this have to do with politics?
hmmmm... trying to see the connection...
hmmmm...
hmmmm... trying to see the connection...
hmmmm...
republicanchick
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what part of You don't u/stand Catholicism so maybe you should talk about things you understand
do you not u/stand?
:luigi:
"Politics: Current Events, Abortion, homosexuality, gun control, public schools, welfare, taxes, government etc...."what dos this have to do with politics?
hmmmm... trying to see the connection...
hmmmm...
republicanchick
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where does Mary, Mother of Christ come in in that list?
oatmeal
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Yes, for those who choose to follow RCism rather than believing scripture.
However, for those who choose God's word not man's words, the pope has no authority, nor does any man have authority to determine what is right or wrong or good or evil. God tells us that.
republicanchick
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wow.. really strange... been practicing Catholic for MANY years now... never seen the pope contradict Scripture. I've seen one or 2 priests say something unscriptural, but 1 or 2 in the hierarchy? out of 10s of thousands?
hmm... that's not too bad a record (and consider i have been to many, many different catholic churches, travelled a lot...)
yeh, strange I have never seen this but somehow you, a nonCatholic has... hmmmmm
Curioser and curiouser..
genuineoriginal
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Let's see.
I don't understand why you don't capitalize the first word of a sentence.
I don't understand why you chose to capitalize the word, "You."
I don't understand what "u/stand" is supposed to be, it isn't a word in any dictionary I have searched.
I don't understand why you ended a sentence without a punctuation mark.
I do understand the etymology of the word, "venerate," and think that Catholics stating that they "venerate" Mary are hurting their case when the word originated from the worship of the pagan Roman goddess Venus.