PLease confirm: Did Trump say he never asked God for forgiveness??

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Wow, if Trump has never asked God for forgivenes... Does that mean he thinks he does no wrong?

I am not yet sure he did say that. I watch closed captions so i can't always be 100% about what i read.. but that seems to be the case

he was quoted by someone on Fox... i believe Hannity a couple days ago...

he needs to ask for forgiveness for at least ONE thing that i know of: giving $$ to Nancy Pelosi... (Is that forgivable?)

Hmmm...


I have heard priests say that any religion that does not have CONFESSION is not Christian.. and i concur


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republicanchick said:
Wow, if Trump has never asked God for forgivenes... Does that mean he thinks he does no wrong?

I am not yet sure he did say that. I watch closed captions so i can't always be 100% about what i read.. but that seems to be the case

he was quoted by someone on Fox... i believe Hannity a couple days ago...

he needs to ask for forgiveness for at least ONE thing that i know of: giving $$ to Nancy Pelosi... (Is that forgivable?)

Hmmm...

I have heard priests say that any religion that does not have CONFESSION is not Christian.. and i concur
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Oh. You believe that Trump committing adultery during his FIRST marriage is something he shouldn't ask forgiveness for?
 
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heir

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republicanchick said:
Wow, if Trump has never asked God for forgivenes... Does that mean he thinks he does no wrong?
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It may very well mean he believes he's already forgiven in which case, he's right!

Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
 
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It may very well mean he believes he's already forgiven in which case, he's right!

Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
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catholics and other people who appreciate logic do not go by the Bible (which i have read in its entirety) alone. And none of the scriptures you list says that people are forgiven even when they don't confess their sins / repent of them



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heir

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republicanchick said:
catholics and other people who appreciate logic do not go by the Bible
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1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
 
heir

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republicanchick said:
catholics and other people who appreciate logic do not go by the Bible (which i have read in its entirety) alone. And none of the scriptures you list says that people are forgiven even when they don't confess their sins / repent of them
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We were quickened together with the Lord and it was then that we were forgiven all trespasses! That's what it says!

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
 
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republicanchick said:
Wow, if Trump has never asked God for forgivenes... Does that mean he thinks he does no wrong?

I am not yet sure he did say that. I watch closed captions so i can't always be 100% about what i read.. but that seems to be the case

he was quoted by someone on Fox... i believe Hannity a couple days ago...

he needs to ask for forgiveness for at least ONE thing that i know of: giving $$ to Nancy Pelosi... (Is that forgivable?)

Hmmm...


I have heard priests say that any religion that does not have CONFESSION is not Christian.. and i concur


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Trump believes in God, but hasn't sought forgiveness

"I am not sure I have. I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so," he said. "I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't."

Trump said that while he hasn't asked God for forgiveness, he does participate in Holy Communion.

"When I drink my little wine -- which is about the only wine I drink -- and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed," he said. "I think in terms of 'let's go on and let's make it right.'"
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Rusha said:
Oh. You believe that Trump committing adultery during his FIRST marriage is something he shouldn't ask forgiveness for?
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He should ask his wife for forgiveness...that's for sure. She might let him forgo some of those alimony payments.
 
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heir said:
We were quickened together with the Lord and it was then that we were forgiven all trespasses! That's what it says!

Colossians 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
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again, these passages do not say what you want them to say

just b/c you are forgiven @ one particular time in your life, when you accept Christ, does not mean you areforgive forever and always. That is ridiculous


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SaulToPaul 2

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republicanchick said:
again, these passages do not say what you want them to say

just b/c you are forgiven @ one particular time in your life, when you accept Christ, does not mean you areforgive forever and always. That is ridiculous


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Speaks volumes. Does not understand identification with Christ's death, burial, and resurrection.
 
Angel4Truth

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republicanchick said:
again, these passages do not say what you want them to say

just b/c you are forgiven @ one particular time in your life, when you accept Christ, does not mean you areforgive forever and always. That is ridiculous


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Hebrews 7:25 Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
 
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Angel4Truth said:
Hebrews 7:25 Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
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that psg doesn't support your osas-ness either

the Bible is anti-osas.. hard to accept for some i guess

where in that psg does it say you don't have to give up sin to get t his forever forgiveness?

i guess u believe you can accept Christ and his forgiveness and then later sin big time but NO problem??

i hate it when people use ONE psg to try to prove a whole ideology/theology...

especially when it is antibiblical ... and illogical



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He could be an atheist for all I care. It won't change my position one way or another. Him doing what is right is what I care about.
 
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republicanchick said:
just b/c you are forgiven @ one particular time in your life, when you accept Christ, does not mean you areforgive forever and always. That is ridiculous


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In trials (Gen. 12:1, 2, Job 1:6–22, 2 Cor. 11:21–33) people cling closer to the Lord or apostatize. Pity the latter (Ro 8:13).

People are like tea bags. You don't know what they're made of until you put them in hot water [Variation of the quote: Eleanor Roosevelt].

See:

Apostasy & Eternal Security
 
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