Paul: "The Just (Justified) Shall Live By Faith" and not by rules, laws or religion

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glorydaz

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Why are you trying to get out of what Paul says?

1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts.

Why are you suggesting Paul contradicts himself?

Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.​

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Why are you so unable to hear what Paul says?

Who was it who kept the commandments? There was only ONE, and that is what matters. Not whether you do such and so or not. The commandments are fulfilled IN US by the Lord Jesus Christ. That is how the commandments matter. He kept them....for us. He did for us what we could not do.

ROMANS 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.​
 

God's Truth

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Why are you suggesting Paul contradicts himself?
I say no such thing.
Romans 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.​
How did the law used to make people righteous? They used to get circumcised, adhere to a dietary law, observe special days, do various external washings, and sacrifice animals.

Jesus is the end of that for he makes us clean and righteous.

Obeying his words does that for us.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Paul says we obey the law.

Why are you so unable to hear what Paul says?

You go against him. Paul explains that we don't do the purification works and we obey all of Jesus' teachings.

Who was it who kept the commandments? There was only ONE, and that is what matters.

Paul says keeping God's commands is what matters.

It is hard for you isn't it?

Not whether you do such and so or not.

Of course it matters. Jesus' words are beautiful, powerful, Spirit and life.

The commandments are fulfilled IN US by the Lord Jesus Christ. That is how the commandments matter. He kept them....for us. He did for us what we could not do.
It is not what Paul says. Paul says all that counts is obeying God's commands.
ROMANS 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.​

That is about the purification works of the law.
 

God's Truth

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The commandments the Gentiles that Paul was first sent were under and praised for keeping were against us, contrary to us and taken out of the way, nailed to His cross!

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Get saved and 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV!

No. The Gentiles were enemies of God because of the purification works that the Gentiles did not do.
 

God's Truth

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If your obedience, righteousness, law keeping, counted for something, then Christ died in vain.

I know it is not sitting right for you when you read your Paul saying 'keeping God's commands is what counts'.

You can't rectify it with only faith no obey no matter how you try.

You say it is about only faith, and Paul says obey God's commands is what counts.

Jesus did not die in vain for those who obey.

That is nonsense to say, for Jesus died for those on the side of truth, those who fear God and do what is right.

Acts 10:35 but that in every nation those who fear Him and live good lives are acceptable to Him.

Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him."

Acts 13:26 "Fellow children of Abraham and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.

John 18:37 Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."

John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.


Jesus died to reconcile us to God, and he does that by cleaning us of the sins we repent of and then living inside of us and putting us in him.
 

God's Truth

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Silly woman.
The context specifies what the command is, but as usual, you miss it.

1 Corinthians 7:19 King James Bible
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.


Here it is in the KING JAMES BIBLE. hahahaha
 

Tambora

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1 Corinthians 7:19 King James Bible
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.


Here it is in the KING JAMES BIBLE. hahahaha
And you still don't know what specific commands the context is speaking of.
His command to one is different from the command to the other.
Two different commands to two different types of people in the context.
It is not speaking of every single command GOD ever gave, but specific commands to specific people.
Can you figure it out?
It's right there in the text.
 

God's Truth

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And you still don't know what specific commands the context is speaking of.
His command to one is different from the command to the other.
Two different commands to two different types of people in the context.
It is not speaking of every single command GOD ever gave, but specific commands to specific people.
Can you figure it out?
It's right there in the text.

hahahahahahaaaaaaa

Let's hear you repeat what Paul says: Keeping God's COMMANDS is what counts.

Say it and say it like you mean it. lol
 

Tambora

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hahahahahahaaaaaaa

Let's hear you repeat what Paul says: Keeping God's COMMANDS is what counts.

Say it and say it like you mean it. lol
You still have no clue as to what command GOD gave to those two different types of people in the text.
 
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