Paul: The Commandments Made Me Want to Lust and Sin

jamie

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Passover was to be remembered annually (Ex. 12:24–27).

The NT Passover is to be observed annually by the NT church of God.

For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:26 NKJV)​
 

jamie

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Christians are NOT under any kind of laws or rules.

Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
(Revelation 14:12 NKJV)

For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry... (1 Samuel 15:23 NKJV)​
 

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The NT Passover is to be observed annually by the NT church of God.

For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:26 NKJV)​
OT believers knew the necessity of the blood (Ex. 12:7).

As a reminder Jamie is number 18 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:
 

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I keep God's commandments because God wants me to.

The commandments of God are good and they make me want to observe them, and because they come from God.
 

Robert Pate

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I keep God's commandments because God wants me to.

The commandments of God are good and they make me want to observe them, and because they come from God.

God never intended for his people to live by laws and rules.

If you need laws or rules you may not be a Christian.

Paul said, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" not by laws rules or religion.
 

Jacob

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God never intended for his people to live by laws and rules.

If you need laws or rules you may not be a Christian.

Paul said, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" not by laws rules or religion.
God gave commandments to His people for them to obey. And, his Law was given to the nation of Israel through His prophet, Moses.

We all must live by faith, even as Abraham did.
 

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Galatians 6:15-16 NASB - 15 For neither is circumcision anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation. 16 And those who will walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.
 

Robert Pate

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God gave commandments to His people for them to obey. And, his Law was given to the nation of Israel through His prophet, Moses.

We all must live by faith, even as Abraham did.

Living by laws, rules or commandments is NOT living by faith.

God gave the law to those rebels that came out of Egypt. The law was a keeper until Christ should come then it was abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
 

Jacob

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Living by laws, rules or commandments is NOT living by faith.

God gave the law to those rebels that came out of Egypt. The law was a keeper until Christ should come then it was abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
The enmity, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, was abolished.

Colossians 2:14 NASB - 14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

Ephesians is talking about what separated the Gentiles from the people of Israel, the people of God.
 

RBBI

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Yes, he elevated the understanding of the law. He didn’t come to say drink up
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and fornicate on.
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Yes, to heaven’s standard unrighteous anger toward your brother is like murder (1 Jn 3:15).
The standard is higher not lower.

So is the higher standard anything like keeping a game score track record going on people who are on some preposterous "TOL heretic's list"?

When we are born again we are made a new creation. A butterfly will not return to the creepy crawly thing he was. He no longer has a sin nature (he’s a new creation) but he is still in the flesh so sin issues can come up from time to time. Will his life be dominated by sin? No, it won’t (Mt 7:20).
The law is on every man’s heart.
Ps 40:8

OT believers cleansed themselves. :granite:

See:

What is the origin of baptism?

Passover was to be remembered annually (Ex. 12:24–27). Pentecost was observed in Solomon’s time (2 Chr. 8:12, 13).

Would it do any good to point out that all 3 main feasts were to be observed FOREVER, are part of the law, and have been spiritually as well as naturally observed since the events recorded in Acts 2, which by the way since the events described in Acts 2 was supposedly "after" the time of the law and yet was also partaken of by the gentiles too, present a problem for the theory it doesn't exist anymore? Or is that an acceptable elephant in the room too? Peace
 

jamie

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God never intended for his people to live by laws and rules.

If you need laws or rules you may not be a Christian.

Paul said, "The Just Shall Live By Faith" not by laws rules or religion.

Faith is demonstrated by obedience to God's expectations (his instructions). If we are faithful to God we will follow his instructions.

By faith Abraham obeyed... (Hebrews 11:8 NKJV)

If Abraham had not obeyed God he would not have been faithful.

Jesus proved himself faithful by following his Father's instructions. Why do you teach against people following our Father's instructions as revealed in his instruction book for us?
 

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Faith is demonstrated by obedience to God's expectations (his instructions). If we are faithful to God we will follow his instructions.

By faith Abraham obeyed... (Hebrews 11:8 NKJV)

If Abraham had not obeyed God he would not have been faithful.

Jesus proved himself faithful by following his Father's instructions. Why do you teach against people following our Father's instructions as revealed in his instruction book for us?

A good son does not need instructions. He knows what pleases or displeases his Father and lives accordingly.

If you need instructions you are probably not a Christian, 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.
 

glorydaz

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A good son does not need instructions. He knows what pleases or displeases his Father and lives accordingly.

If you need instructions you are probably not a Christian, 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.

Indeed, the knowledge, the desire, and the ability to please God come with our "circumcision made without hands" as new creatures. It's built into us.

Eph. 1:8-9
8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; 9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

Philippians 2:13
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.


No list of rules and regulations or instructions will do, but an OPERATION of God.

Colossians 2:11-12
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.​
 

RBBI

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A good son does not need instructions. He knows what pleases or displeases his Father and lives accordingly.

If you need instructions you are probably not a Christian, 1 Timothy 1:9, 10.

Apparently you need instructions because....and I'll ask this again here....

Would it do any good to point out that all 3 main feasts were to be observed FOREVER, are a part of the law, and have been spiritually as well as naturally observed since the events recorded in Acts 2, which by the way since the events described in Acts 2 was supposedly "after" the time of the law and was yet partaken of by the gentiles too, present a problem for the theory it doesn't exist anymore? Or is that an acceptable elephant in the room, too? Peace
 

jamie

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A good son does not need instructions. He knows what pleases or displeases his Father and lives accordingly.

Evidently you have never had children or you would know better.

Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. (Proverbs 22:6 NKJV)​
 

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"So is the higher standard anything like keeping a game score track record going on people who are on some preposterous "TOL heretic's list"?"
:thumb: You're welcome.

Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them (Eph 5:8–11).


"Would it do any good to point out that all 3 main feasts were to be observed FOREVER, are part of the law, and have been spiritually as well as naturally observed since the events recorded in Acts 2, which by the way since the events described in Acts 2 was supposedly "after" the time of the law and yet was also partaken of by the gentiles too, present a problem for the theory it doesn't exist anymore? Or is that an acceptable elephant in the room too?"
There is nothing wrong with the law. There is something wrong with the reprobate heart (2 Cor. 13:3–5).

Celebrate whatever feasts you'd like. :idunno: Torah Calendar

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RBBI

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Do you know what unfruitful works of darkness are? I don't think so. And all you are exposing is your own heart and opening yourself up to reap by the same measure the way you are going about it, as Ham did. Peace
 

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[
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]Do you know what unfruitful works of darkness are?...

:vomit: Do I have to talk about it? :granite: Eph 5:12

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God (Ga 5:19–21).
 
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