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KingdomRose

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Would you prefer we disband our military and let the Communists walk on in and take over? Most likely they would place you and your family in some kind of concentration camp or decide to just shoot you and get it over with?

This happened in WWII when the Nazis put JWs in concentration camps for not heiling Hitler and refusing to go to war to kill Americans and other Allies. Many were shot and beheaded. All the JWs had to do was sign a piece of paper saying they renounced their faith! Then they could go free. But they wouldn't do it, and stuck to their loyalty to Jehovah and their principles.

If it was you, you would've surely signed the paper and even joined the German military, wouldn't you! You'd have killed those schwein Americans, because the master race must be protected! Germany should rule the world! And let's take out those Russians too!!! Hitler hated the Russians! The Nazis hated Communism just like you and your ilk, and they fought them tooth and nail.

Christians who are serious in following Jesus will accept suffering in camps or Siberia, or death. We have done so since WWII, rather than learn killing. We have faith in God that we will be resurrected, should we be killed.

Why compromise your Christian position for a lifetime of a few years and throw away an eternity of happiness and joy?
 

jamie

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It's not the military that Paul was talking about in Romans 13. He was referring to the police and judicial institutions.

The police maintain domestic order and the military is called upon to maintain international order.
 

KingdomRose

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She and the rest of the JWs would be forced to kneel besides a deep trench with an officer walking along the line shooting them in the back of the head as they fall into the trench only to be buried moments later as the dirt was filled back in. God does not do for you what you can do for yourself. It is your responsibility to keep out of danger. God won't do it when you can easily do it yourself.

When Christ says to show love to your enemies and you disobey that, you might as well be shot in the head. Your eternal life is at stake. The few hundred JWs who did allow themselves to be shot and beheaded in the war can be sure of a resurrection to eternal life in a paradise earth.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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When Christ says to show love to your enemies and you disobey that, you might as well be shot in the head. Your eternal life is at stake. The few hundred JWs who did allow themselves to be shot and beheaded in the war can be sure of a resurrection to eternal life in a paradise earth.

If they were a member of the Body of Christ? If not, they are awaiting Judgement.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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This happened in WWII when the Nazis put JWs in concentration camps for not heiling Hitler and refusing to go to war to kill Americans and other Allies. Many were shot and beheaded. All the JWs had to do was sign a piece of paper saying they renounced their faith! Then they could go free. But they wouldn't do it, and stuck to their loyalty to Jehovah and their principles.

If it was you, you would've surely signed the paper and even joined the German military, wouldn't you! You'd have killed those schwein Americans, because the master race must be protected! Germany should rule the world! And let's take out those Russians too!!! Hitler hated the Russians! The Nazis hated Communism just like you and your ilk, and they fought them tooth and nail.

Christians who are serious in following Jesus will accept suffering in camps or Siberia, or death. We have done so since WWII, rather than learn killing. We have faith in God that we will be resurrected, should we be killed.

Why compromise your Christian position for a lifetime of a few years and throw away an eternity of happiness and joy?

Just face it, you belong to a non-Christian cult. You need the Gospel and you need the indwelling and sealing of the Holy Spirit or you will stand before God and be judged by your works and spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.
 

KingdomRose

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I have news for you....God's will is not done on earth right now. That's why Jesus said to pray God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

That's no news to me. Why do you think Jesus said to pray for God's Kingdom to come? Because that Kingdom is what will end all wars and suffering and even death.

Do you want to go down with the leaders of the nations and their militaries? Or do you want to stand firm for God and Christ and what they say?

The near future:

"From his [Christ's] mouth comes a sharp sword, so that he may strike down the nations [all of them, including U.S.A.], and he will rule them with a rod of iron [not putting up with any b***s*** from the nations and people like you]....And on his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, 'King of kings and Lord of lords.'

"Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, 'Come, assemble for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men... And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against him who sat on the horse and against his army." (Revelation 19:15-19, NASB)

They all were killed by the word of Christ Jesus, "and all the birds were filled with their flesh." (v.21)


So much for your military institutions.
 

jamie

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When Christ says to show love to your enemies..

Loving your enemy is based on the principle of loving others as you love yourself. If you don't love yourself then you don't love others.

If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. (1 Corinthians 3:17)​

We should do all we can to prevent someone from destroying God's temple rather than just handing it over as you are promoting.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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That's no news to me. Why do you think Jesus said to pray for God's Kingdom to come? Because that Kingdom is what will end all wars and suffering and even death.

Do you want to go down with the leaders of the nations and their militaries? Or do you want to stand firm for God and Christ and what they say?

The near future:

"From his [Christ's] mouth comes a sharp sword, so that he may strike down the nations [all of them, including U.S.A.], and he will rule them with a rod of iron [not putting up with any b***s*** from the nations and people like you]....And on his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, 'King of kings and Lord of lords.'

"Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, 'Come, assemble for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of commanders and the flesh of mighty men... And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against him who sat on the horse and against his army." (Revelation 19:15-19, NASB)

They all were killed by the word of Christ Jesus, "and all the birds were filled with their flesh." (v.21)


So much for your military institutions.

The Millennial Kingdom is where Christ will sit on the throne of David and will reign over His chosen people, the Jews.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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If people would take the time to look into these two faiths, they could see what a difference there is, and which one is Christian and which one is counterfeit. Go to www.jw.org and check out JWs for yourselves. See if you want to get involved with true Christianity or if you want to get involved with a religion that started with a man "translating" a so-called sacred book by putting his face in a hat behind a curtain.

JWs believe that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit....Mormons say he was conceived by a physical man and the H.S. had nothing to do with it.

JWs believe in ONE God, Jehovah. Mormons believe in MILLIONS of Gods, this planet having its own God and other planets having theirs.

Don't believe what you hear from the likes of people like Grosnick. Check it out for yourselves.

And don't lump JWs in with Mormons. There is no real similarity at all.

They share a common bond, they're both cults. I would advise folks not to visit JW websites and read their cultist propaganda. You'll be deceived. Just read your Bible and let the Holy Spirit guide your path to truth.

 
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