SonOfCaleb
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We've been over this already.
Origin of the Cross
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We've been over this already.
Ben Masada
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Well, I am sorry if you feel that way but, if you can produce an evidence that Jesus is alive, you have made a Christian out of a Jew.
CherubRam
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CherubRam
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Those who witnessed it became strong in faith and continued preaching, otherwise the belief would have died out.
Ben Masada
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See what I mean? You are wrong again. Was the verdict of Jesus on that plate on the top of his cross, "Sorry, but the Jews demanded of me to put Jesus to death." So, Jesus was not killed because, as you claim, the Jews demanded of Pilate to kill him. When one is guilt in Court, a verdict is demanded of the Judge, in the case of Jesus, Pilate. And the verdict given was INRI. The claim of his disciples that he was king of the Jews. So, don't blame the Jews if you cannot prove what you say.
Ben Masada
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This is proof of nothing. Hear-say proves only slanders. Did Islam die out or is growing even faster than Christianity? Islam is growing phenomenally faster. Is that proof of the Truth? Hardly!
CherubRam
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The religion of Islam is forced upon the people. Islam is growing faster because they have more children.
CherubRam
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Wrong again Ben. Pilate called Christ King of the Jews, and Pilate wrote that.
The Jews in Jerusalem were calling Christ, King. That is why Pilate asked, "are you King of the Jews?" Yahshuah's mother was a Levite, and Joseph his father was of the royal line of David. Even though he was a King, the Hellenistic Jews did not like it because he posed a threat to their authority.
Matthew 27:24
When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
Matthew 27:37
Above his head they placed the written charge against him: Yahshua, King of the Jews.
John 19:19
Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the stake. It read: Yahshua, King of the Jews.
37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of Yahwah.’”
CherubRam
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Psalm 118
22 The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23 Yahwah has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 Yahwah has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad.
25 Yahwah, save us!
Yahwah, grant us success!
26 Blessed is he who comes in the name of Yahwah.
From the house of Yahwah we bless you.
22 The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone;
23 Yahwah has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.
24 Yahwah has done it this very day;
let us rejoice today and be glad.
25 Yahwah, save us!
Yahwah, grant us success!
26 Blessed is he who comes in the name of Yahwah.
From the house of Yahwah we bless you.
CherubRam
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Hundreds, perhaps thousands witnessed it. In a court of law the testimony of hundreds who witnessed it would be valid. It is very simple Ben, you have no faith in Yahwah fulfilling scriptures.
SonOfCaleb
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We know the name from those 'scripts' as well as other sources. But specifically HOW the name was pronounced is not known.
CherubRam
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A Jewish wives tale.
CherubRam
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Theophoric names with "Yeho" prefixes have corresponding forms where the letters "eh"' have been omitted. There is a theory by Christian Ginsburg that this is due to Hebrew scribes omitting the "h", changing Jeho (יְהוֹ) into Jo (יוֹ), to make the start of "Yeho-" names not sound like an attempt to pronounce the Divine Name. With the Tetragrammaton, some theophoric names begin with the first two consonants, other names take only the first and the third letters from the Tetragrammaton and build them into the syllable "yo" at the beginning of a name (Yoab, Yoram, Yoyakim, Yoel, Yonathan).
CherubRam
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[FONT="]Honor His Name[/FONT][FONT="]
For thousands of years the refusing to use a person's name has been a direct form of dishonor. Shortening the name, replacing the name, distorting the name, all are signs of dishonor.
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[/FONT][FONT="]Honorable Mention[/FONT][FONT="]
An “honorable mention” is a title of distinction given to a person worthy of mention. Upon honoring the person their name is mentioned, so their name has a place of honor known among the people.[/FONT][FONT="]
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Malachi 1:6
“A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, [/FONT][FONT="]where is the honor due me?[/FONT][FONT="] If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’
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[/FONT][FONT="]So what are your thoughts about this?[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT="]Malachi 2:2[/FONT][FONT="]
If you do not listen, and [/FONT][FONT="]if you do not resolve to honor my name[/FONT][FONT="],” says [the LORD / Yahwah Almighty], “[/FONT][FONT="]I will send a curse on you[/FONT][FONT="], and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.
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For thousands of years the refusing to use a person's name has been a direct form of dishonor. Shortening the name, replacing the name, distorting the name, all are signs of dishonor.
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[/FONT][FONT="]Honorable Mention[/FONT][FONT="]
An “honorable mention” is a title of distinction given to a person worthy of mention. Upon honoring the person their name is mentioned, so their name has a place of honor known among the people.[/FONT][FONT="]
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Malachi 1:6
“A son honors his father, and a slave his master. If I am a father, [/FONT][FONT="]where is the honor due me?[/FONT][FONT="] If I am a master, where is the respect due me?” says [the LORD / Yahwah] Almighty. “It is you priests who show contempt for my name. “But you ask, ‘How have we shown contempt for your name?’
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[/FONT][FONT="]So what are your thoughts about this?[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT="]Malachi 2:2[/FONT][FONT="]
If you do not listen, and [/FONT][FONT="]if you do not resolve to honor my name[/FONT][FONT="],” says [the LORD / Yahwah Almighty], “[/FONT][FONT="]I will send a curse on you[/FONT][FONT="], and I will curse your blessings. Yes, I have already cursed them, because you have not resolved to honor me.
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beameup
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"Thou shall not put the LORD thy God to the test" Deut 6:16
All the "fathers" and "patriarchs" trusted God by faith. We are no different.
Classic JW theology. You just gave yourself away.
CherubRam
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heir
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1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
Again, it is what was accomplished there (Romans 4:25 KJV, Galatians 3:3 KJV).
Your only hope of salvation is WHY Christ died on a cross (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). Get saved by trusting the Lord believing it instead of the seducing spirits that you are heeding.
Ben Masada
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I am not putting the Lord my God to the test but Beameup. I think Paul missed to make a god out of him. Regarding the "Fathers" and "Patriarchs" they trusted God by obedience aka the works of the Law. I think you ought to text your faith if it includes obedience of the Law. If not, it is akin to a body without the breath of life if you read James 2:26.