Your shallow, irrational, anti-Christ thinking is an invention of your father, Satan.
That God is one what?
You know he's banned, right?
Your shallow, irrational, anti-Christ thinking is an invention of your father, Satan.
That God is one what?
Didn't know that, but pleased to learn it!You know he's banned, right?
John 8:24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”Jesus holds the 7 spirits of God, (3 of which visited Abraham at his tent). The scripture is very clear about this. Without Jesus, God’s creation becomes meaningless- Jesus is who God has chosen to to host His fullness. Scripture is also very clear about this.
I actually agree with you that there is no trinity, but your religion's lack of belief in Jesus Christ disqualifies you as having any relationship with, and therefore any authentic belief in, the One True God Almighty.In that case; please tell me where in the Bible it is written that God is a trinity.
I would sure be curious to know exactly what got him banned as there are so many of his kind, with the same message, on so many Christian Discussion forums these days and they just linger and linger.You know he's banned, right?
You're contradicting yourself.I actually agree with you that there is no trinity, but your religion's lack of belief in Jesus Christ disqualifies you as having any relationship with, and therefore any authentic belief in, the One True God Almighty.
The Bible makes this very clear in many places.
Proponents of your faith make all manner of claims that you, and only those of your religion, know God Almighty while denying the very Christ Himself.
This eliminates the possibility that anything your faith preaches has any Divine Authenticity whatsoever.
I actually agree with you that there is no trinity, but your religion's lack of belief in Jesus Christ disqualifies you as having any relationship with, and therefore any authentic belief in, the One True God Almighty.
The trinity was a very small part of that post. The meat of it was about the falsehood of the religion that the intended recipient was preaching for.You're contradicting yourself.
Do you believe that Jesus was/is the Creator God?
If so, how do you reject the idea that God is a Trinity?
Matthew 3:16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”There's the Father, Son and Spirit all in one passage. Seems pretty blatantly clear.
Uh no.Please specify exactly to what proposition you are referring by your phrase "belief in Jesus Christ". What proposition are you saying that other guy lacks belief of?
The Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit. So, when you say something dumb like "I actually agree with you that there is no trinity", if by your word "trinity" you are referring to the Trinity, then this is what you are saying:
- "I actually agree with you that there is no [Father]"
- "I actually agree with you that there is no [Son]"
- "I actually agree with you that there is no [Spirit]"
If you are willing to contradict yourself in one point, you're willing to do it at any point.The trinity was a very small part of that post. The meat of it was about the falsehood of the religion that the intended recipient was preaching for.
ALL of them?All the same, what you are doing is a form of fraudulent logic.
All trinitarian debaters latch onto one or more cherry-picked verses from the Bible to build their entire case upon.
Saying it doesn't make it so.It all comes crashing down the moment someone points out that there is no case made anywhere in the entire Bible for the false doctrine of the trinity.
Now who's using "fraudulent logic"?In order for your argument to have any legs, there must first be a definitive teaching somewhere within Scripture that makes the concept of God being three persons plain. There is not.
Seriously?Therefore, to then cherry-pick verses from Scripture that you claim support the aforementioned teaching, which doesn't exist, is to play the game backwards.
No, that isn't at all what anyone that I've ever seen make an argument for the Trinity do. Not even one single time. You're delusional or you're parroting some idiotic thing someone behind a pulpit somewhere told you.You are acting as if the teaching exists while saying "See, here's proof of said teaching, and here's proof and here's proof."
Do you suppose that it will have escaped my notice that you ignored my question?Produce the foundational teaching first, then you can decide which verses support it.
Good luck.
I think you're about the most boring individual I have ever had an exchange with online in 15 years.I do not care AT ALL about your personal opinions.
I haven't needed to take any time at all to investigate.You are either stupid or you think I am.
What is your question, idiot?Do you suppose that it will have escaped my notice that you refuse to answer my question?
So you're implying (in your infinite wisdom) that because Christ is the Creator, per John 1:1, that proves God is three persons?Do you believe that Jesus was/is the Creator God?
If so, how do you reject the idea that God is a Trinity?
What I'm clearly saying is that God is one individual person.
What is your question, idiot?
Are you honestly proud of that post?Then how is He any different from Allah, who is also one person (but very much so NOT God)?
He bolded it. Not sure how you missed it.
Do you really feel like the Allah comparison made a strong point?
. . .
If the concept of God being one and not three makes God equal to Allah somehow in your mind, it really begs the question of how familiar you are with Scripture.
Nothing about God being a singular individual suggests that He must then be Allah.
And the Bible is very clear that He is ONE.
I'm always happy to concede when anybody produces Scripture that clearly says so.And it is also clear that He is three.
If by your word "God" you are referring to the Father, observe what you've just told us:What I'm clearly saying is that God is one individual person.
All you've done, there, is to affirm an essential Trinitarian doctrine. You're preaching to the Trinitarian choir. Every Trinitarian believes that the Father is one individual person. So then, why not try to give us an example of you trying to refute Trinitarian doctrine, instead?What I'm clearly saying is that [the Father] is one individual person.
If by a "trinity" you mean that God is three people, then you (and every other unwitting trinitarian) completely contradict plain Scripture as the Bible makes crystal clear, over and over, that [the Father] is everything that you claim Jesus to be. That's not possible in a bible that teaches that god is three people, but in a Bible that teaches that God is ONE individual person, it tracks perfectly.If by your word "God" you are referring to the Father, observe what you've just told us:
All you've done, there, is to affirm an essential Trinitarian doctrine. You're preaching to the Trinitarian choir. Every Trinitarian believes that the Father is one individual person. So then, why not try to give us an example of you trying to refute Trinitarian doctrine, instead?
If by your word "God" you are not referring to the Father, then to whom are you referring by it when you say "God is one individual person"?
By your word "God", are you referring to the Father? Yes or No?If by a "trinity" you mean that God is three people
I don't mean that the Father is three people. No Trinitarian thinks or says that the Father is three people.If by a "trinity" you mean that [the Father] is three people
But the Bible does not teach that the Father, alone, is that Savior.The Bible presents [the Father] declaring that He is the sole Savior, the sole Creator and the sole God
By your word "God" are you referring to the Father alone? Yes or No?but the onus is actually on you to produce any Scripture, from anywhere in the Bible, that clearly and plainly teaches the concept that God is three people.
But I don't teach that the Father alone is three people, so why would I be under any burden to try to back up your claim that the Father alone is three people? Obviously I wouldn't be. Duh.but the onus is actually on you to produce any Scripture, from anywhere in the Bible, that clearly and plainly teaches the concept that [the Father alone] is three people.
Wait, what verse(s) have I quoted? All I've done is asked you questions about your anti-Bible, Christ-hating ravings with which, as you've demonstrated, you can't deal honestly or rationally.Your only recourse is to continue, over and over again, returning to your only play (which happens to illegitimate) of pointing out cherry-picked verses that YOU claim support a doctrine that doesn't exist anywhere from Genesis to Revelation.
I'm always happy to concede when anybody produces Scripture that clearly says so.
I can produce lots to the contrary.