So we aren't talking actual perfection, just Jewish perfection....
Until he was older and broke many Jewish laws, of course.
Do you have the record of Jesus' childhood?
So we aren't talking actual perfection, just Jewish perfection....
Until he was older and broke many Jewish laws, of course.
Of course not. Apparently the perfect childhood years were nothing worth writing about, save for the temple visit.Do you have the record of Jesus' childhood?
Of course not. Apparently the perfect childhood years were nothing worth writing about, save for the temple visit.
True. But when I don't know somebody's past, I don't speculate that it was perfect. That's a bad speculation.So all we can do is to speculate.
True. But when I don't know somebody's past, I don't speculate that it was perfect. That's a bad speculation.
Perfect in the Greek means complete. In what way do you believe Jesus Christ was not complete?
We know, based on God's word, that he was without sin. (Hebrews 9:14)
It's called FAITHOf all the authors of the New Testament that wrote he was perfect or sinless, which ones actually knew him his whole life, day in and day out, and weren't speculating like us?
The only reason people say he was perfect, or sinless, is because HE said he was. We are left to speculate that he was telling the truth.
Jamie called it speculation, not me.It's called FAITH
Why! If I had done what Jesus did against the Jewish authorities or the money changers, I would be condemned perhaps to a long time in jail. But what Jesus did does not equate to sins or to a law-breaking act. You guys never cease amazing me!
Of all the authors of the New Testament that wrote he was perfect or sinless, which ones actually knew him his whole life, day in and day out, and weren't speculating like us?
The only reason people say he was perfect, or sinless, is because HE said he was. We are left to speculate that he was telling the truth.
Jesus Christ is the perfect lamb, without spot or blemish for the sacrifice on the crossOf all the authors of the New Testament that wrote he was perfect or sinless, which ones actually knew him his whole life, day in and day out, and weren't speculating like us?
The only reason people say he was perfect, or sinless, is because HE said he was. We are left to speculate that he was telling the truth.
Yes, Jesus never did anything wrong, what part of that don't you understand ?So you dispute Jamie's claim that he was only perfect as a toddler because Jewish law didn't hold him accountable until he was adult, and maintain he literally never did anything wrong?
Jesus did NOT sin by challenging the greed and callousness of the Jewish religious leaders He CONFRONTED sin.
Jesus fulfilled God's law perfectly, he is the perfect Lamb of God, you hereticNo Dodge, Jesus in the case of Mat. 23:13-33 confronted the sinner, not the sin. One cannot confront sin by sinning. If I am to believe that text, I am sure Jesus himself must have realized that the Jewish authorities felt deeply offended. Also the money changers resented the financial losses incurred upon them because of Jesus. Jesus was charismatic. He could have solved that problem with a stern glance of his eyes and not with hostility even physical hostility. No sir, Jesus could not have been perfect. The point is that Christian preconceived notions won't allow you to be honest.
Jesus fulfilled God's law perfectly, he is the perfect Lamb of God, you heretic
You believe that Jesus was only a man and a sinner like all othersPatrick, you are incurable; really beyond repair.
No Dodge, Jesus in the case of Mat. 23:13-33 confronted the sinner, not the sin. One cannot confront sin by sinning. If I am to believe that text, I am sure Jesus himself must have realized that the Jewish authorities felt deeply offended. Also the money changers resented the financial losses incurred upon them because of Jesus. Jesus was charismatic, wasn't he? He could have solved that problem with a stern glance of his eyes and not with hostility even physical hostility in the case
of the money changers. No sir, Jesus could not have been perfect. The point is that Christian preconceived notions won't allow you to be honest to acknowledge. At least, admit the case to have been a forgery and not true, and I am ready to agree with you.