On what day was Christ crucified?

Rhema

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Different organizations do different studies - I don't.
So just pick a card... any card... (I mean year...). Go ahead. Here's a hat. Reach in and make up a year.
31 AD.
Okay... Got it.

And because Christianity will never admit if it even discovered it was wrong that Jesus was not crucified on a Friday. 3 days 3 nights does not add up to Sunday.
Well then good thing I readily admit that Friday is a Roman Catholic concoction. Mostly because Gentiles couldn't care less about Judaism. And that's true even today.

Two listed below puts the death of Jesus in April on a Friday and AD 33.
Hey... thank you. Now I get to say "irrelevant." Friday had been designated hundreds of years ago. They just didn't care, and it became tradition.

The mixup on the day was because Gentiles were reading accounts of the Messiah without a clue about how Judaism counted days. As to the year, I will readily admit some curiosity about the software that would identify the year upon which the eating of the Passover occurred on Wednesday night.

Rhema

(There are a lot of mistakes in the articles you've cited.)
 
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You're not even going to consider the alternative to your beliefs?



Not this one, you haven't.



That "other research" ignores the second Hebrew Feast calendar I mentioned.



*accept

And I agree, truth is truth regardless of whether one accepts it.



1) I have stated nothing about my "personal belief."
2) In fact, I've stated the exact opposite! What part of "It's a good thing we don't have to rely on personal feelings for truth then" and "fits with the Biblical narrative, and isn't a matter of opinion or personal feelings" do you not understand?



I'm not the one who came to the conclusion, though. That would be Dr. McMurtry.



And they're wrong, because they didn't take into account the second Hebrew Calendar for feasts, for one, as well as what the Bible clearly states, and everything else mentioned in the show that you refuse to listen to.

Not only that, but you (and the people you cite) seem to be completely ignoring what is so important about the Sabbath days (both Shabbot and Shabboton).



Why should I bother looking at any of those, when you won't listen to one interview with someone who is highly qualified to speak on the matter? (Doctor of Divinity from the School of Theology in Columbus, GA)

 
So just pick a card... any card... (I mean year...). Go ahead. Here's a hat. Reach in and make up a year.
31 AD.
Okay... Got it.


Well then good thing I readily admit that Friday is a Roman Catholic concoction. Mostly because Gentiles couldn't care less about Judaism. And that's true even today.


Hey... thank you. Now I get to say "irrelevant." Friday had been designated hundreds of years ago. They just didn't care, and it became tradition.

The mixup on the day was because Gentiles were reading accounts of the Messiah without a clue about how Judaism counted days. As to the year, I will readily admit some curiosity about the software that would identify the year upon which the eating of the Passover occurred on Wednesday night.

Rhema

(There are a lot of mistakes in the articles you've cited.)
Who says their mistakes in the articles I cited - you?


Scripture says don't argue / exchange words / debate over scripture
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2 Timothy 2:14

But I'm going to post this again


 
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Hi Y'all,

The Gospel of Mark (and the other Synoptic Gospels) has Jesus being crucified after Passover, yet John has Jesus crucified before. For anyone not familiar with this biblical curiosity, I'll run through the passages. It helps to remember that for the Jews, a new day begins when it gets dark. So the day of Passover starts in the evening with eating the Passover meal and continues the next day until evening. The lambs would be prepared for the Passover meal on the day prior to Passover (this day is called the day of Preparation for the Passover), when it became evening, Passover day would begin and the meal eaten. According to Mark 14:12, the disciples ask Jesus where to prepare the Passover meal, that would be the day of Preparation. Then that evening they have the Passover meal, also known as the Last Supper (Mark 14:17-25). After that, He is betrayed by Judas and put on trial, spends the night in jail and early in the morning the Sanhedrin sends him over to Pilate. (15:1). Pilate condemns him to death and he is nailed to the cross at 9:00 am (15:25), the morning after the Passover meal was eaten.

But in the Gospel of John, Jesus was crucified on the day of Preparation at about noon (John 19:14-16). For John, Jesus is dead by the time of the Passover meal. Note that in John, the description of the trial before Pilate is very elaborate compared to Mark. (John 18:28-19:16). In John, the Jewish leaders refuse to enter into Pilate's residence for the trial because they do not want to be defiled before the Passover meal. In Mark, they had already eaten the Passover meal the night before. Of course in John, Jesus never instructs his disciples on Passover preparations.

Do these differences matter? Do we care about the inconsistency? The Gospel of John is considered to have been written decades (90-95 AD) after the Gospel of Mark (65-70). Maybe the story got changed along the way. But why would it get changed? Would there be a reason for it? One answer is that John is the only gospel writer to advance the motif, Jesus as the Lamb of God. So the story got changed from Christ being crucified after the Passover, to Him dying at the same time as the Passover lamb. Sounds good?
 
You're not even going to consider the alternative to your beliefs?



Not this one, you haven't.



That "other research" ignores the second Hebrew Feast calendar I mentioned.



*accept

And I agree, truth is truth regardless of whether one accepts it.



1) I have stated nothing about my "personal belief."
2) In fact, I've stated the exact opposite! What part of "It's a good thing we don't have to rely on personal feelings for truth then" and "fits with the Biblical narrative, and isn't a matter of opinion or personal feelings" do you not understand?



I'm not the one who came to the conclusion, though. That would be Dr. McMurtry.



And they're wrong, because they didn't take into account the second Hebrew Calendar for feasts, for one, as well as what the Bible clearly states, and everything else mentioned in the show that you refuse to listen to.

Not only that, but you (and the people you cite) seem to be completely ignoring what is so important about the Sabbath days (both Shabbot and Shabboton).



Why should I bother looking at any of those, when you won't listen to one interview with someone who is highly qualified to speak on the matter? (Doctor of Divinity from the School of Theology in Columbus, GA)

Don't ............

Again


 

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Don't ............

A typical verse used when trying to distract from the fact that a person's position has no foundation.

Again



Repeating yourself does not advance your arguments.

It's called "argument from repitition." It's a logical fallacy.

Try making an actual argument.

I've made mine, you've refused to address it.
 

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In what way does this verse apply? Care to explain? Or are you just slinging insults because you have no defense for your position? In which case, I ask that you stop bearing false witness against your neighbor.
Maybe he's talking about himself? Just as likely, since he won't explain why he uses it.
 
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