NWO

serpentdove · Aug 2, 2016

Ordo ab Chao

[NWO all out takeover of USA begins end of intermediate stage by Sher Zieve renewamerica.com] "We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and future generations a New World Order...a world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful – and we will be – we have a real chance at this New World Order in which a credible United Nations can use its "peacekeeping role" to fulfill the promise envisioned by the UN founders" – President George H.W. Bush 11 September 1990

Must destroy America and destroy Western Civilization. Even with the dumbing-down of humans worldwide, Western Civilization has become too literate and – therefore – too dangerous for the New World Order. There are, quite simply, still not enough of the devolved to ensure the complete success of and for the NWO. Therefore, the globalists have been forcing these uneducated savages (Islam as a whole is a devolved society of considerably uneducated and ideologically violent individuals) into Western nations in order to subvert their governments, create lawless societies and replace the current civilized inhabitants..." Full text: NWO all out takeover of USA begins end of intermediate stage Gen. 11:5–9, Re 13:1-18 more

WonderfulLordJesus · Aug 2, 2016

Something I wish every Christian realized, though, is that nothing is going to happen, on the antichrist front, until the Lord Jesus allows it. He will open the seals of Revelation 6 and bring the world into tribulation, not the actions and devious schemes of vile men. Until that time, the hounds of hell do have a muzzle on them, to no small degree.

Too many Christian people have a focus upon a perceived threat of these plans of man, bringing forth the tyranny of antichrist, when man does not have that power, in the first place. Also, what is this "Christian" notion of preventing the antichrist of prophecy? Who is going to hinder a punctuation mark of God's word coming to pass?

The concept the appointed times can be thwarted is foolishness, as if not to mention, what, there are Christians who don't desire the return of the Lord for His bride, for the process of justice to begin? (Yes, there are just such "Christians," who deny clear eschatology, all the time, have even expressed, and I have seen this, a number of times, when cornered as to why, they don't want the Lord to come back, until they've, the likes of, been to Venice, finished their career, been married, raised their children, etc. Just amazing! As if the Lord should restrain His plan and the contrary wishes of all truly God loving and fearing believers, who love His appearing, postpone things until they've worked out their nuclear family issues. They usually come in the form of Preterists or Amillennialists.)

2 Thessalonians 2

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Revelation 6

1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see."
2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Revelation 22:11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.

Matthew 5

34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God's throne;
35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King.
36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black.
37 But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

aCultureWarrior · Aug 2, 2016

WonderfulLordJesus said:
...Too many Christian people have a focus upon a perceived threat of these plans of man, bringing forth the tyranny of antichrist, when man does not have that power, in the first place.

Actually God does give mankind the tools and knowledge on how to fight evil. It's in the same Bible that you're cherry picking verses out of.

serpentdove · Aug 2, 2016

WonderfulLordJesus said:
Too many Christian people have a focus upon a perceived threat of these plans of man, bringing forth the tyranny of antichrist, when man does not have that power, in the first place.

:thumb: This will all go down when God says it goes down. He's God's devil (Luther). Ps 37:13

WonderfulLordJesus · Aug 2, 2016

aCultureWarrior said:
Actually God does give mankind the tools and knowledge on how to fight evil. It's in the same Bible that you're cherry picking verses out of.

This is much too large a discussion and, in truth, beyond the ability of many to comprehend, but what you've just expressed is something at the root of much delusion in man, which makes him believe that he is in control, that he must be in control, as the alternative is too scary. It keeps man from fully coming to God, thought based in fear people can't come to grips with. An entire world of evil really comes down to that one four-letter word, in most people, fear, fear of man, much moreso, fear of God and the whole truth of how helpless and dependent on God all really are.

Fear is a predominant driving force in humanity that will pervert minds in the worst ways, the most evil men in history the most fearful, to paranoia. Most conspiracy theories are foolish, can't stand the scrutiny of evidence or reason, just fear on parade, as a matter of fact. Narcissistic and fearful man must believe he's in control, regardless he can barely wipe his rear successfully, helpless despite all his delusions and fears, his elevation of self, elevation of the creature, as history proves. Sans God, you are one idiot on the nuclear button away from toast.

Christ incarnate even stated, flatout, the time is appointed and of the Father. Sure, clear, literal verses you don't like, that don't match your philosophy, are cherry picking. Anything but God's scary truths, heaven forbid, truths you just can't handle.

serpentdove · Aug 2, 2016

WonderfulLordJesus said:
Fear is a predominant driving force in humanity that will pervert minds in the worst ways, the most evil men in history the most fearful, to paranoia.

No. They don't have a proper fear. Maybe you mean cowardice. They've got plenty of that. :juggle:

"Ps 36:1 no fear. This is the opposite of the attitude which characterizes true disciples. The word here is actually “dread” or “terror” (cf. Deut. 2:25; Ps. 119:120; Is. 2:10, 19, 21; etc.)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 773). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

"Nobody calls me chicken." ~ Marty McFly, Back to the Future

WonderfulLordJesus · Aug 2, 2016

serpentdove said:
No. They don't have a proper fear. Maybe you mean cowardice. They've got plenty of that. :juggle:

"Ps 36:1 no fear. This is the opposite of the attitude which characterizes true disciples. The word here is actually “dread” or “terror” (cf. Deut. 2:25; Ps. 119:120; Is. 2:10, 19, 21; etc.)." MacArthur, J., Jr. (Ed.). (1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed., p. 773). Nashville, TN: Word Pub.

"Nobody calls me chicken." ~ Marty McFly, Back to the Future

Excellent point! Surely cowardice in so very many, but it seems the full-blown, control freak narcissist, so fearful of not being in control he wastes everything in his path, they seem to have an uncommon disregard for racing off the cliff. Only God knows how one can account for those who've sold their eternal souls to the devil, for a lousy mansion and some baubles they won't be able to take to eternal hellfire with them. Though this is probably ultimate cowardice, intractable fear, throw in that huge ego, and you get twisted mental illness that doesn't know what it's doing, fertile ground for possession by devils.

There is absolutely no doubt that fear, that insecurity which breeds a lack of faith, trust in God and denial of His word, is at the root of many, many problems, that unregenerate man is a fearful control freak, of the flesh, who will fall for any scheme of the flesh in, such as, evil politicians that allow them to feel they're in control, this notion that things must make some other sense than God and Satan, if we can just correct this or that conspiracy, we'll get past those scary things in the Bible and sit a queen, live out our smutty little lives, with no need of God.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The Horn · Aug 2, 2016

There is no "New World Order " threatening to "destroy civilization." It's nothing but an urban legend created by the conspiracy theory industry . Yet so many gullible conservatives actually believe in it . Go figure .

serpentdove · Aug 2, 2016

The Horn said:
There is no "New World Order " threatening to "destroy civilization."...

Depends on what the meaning of

civilization is. Re 13:1-18

Europe 'At End of Existence' Eccl 10:2, Jn 10:10

serpentdove · Aug 5, 2016

NWO: Starts in Dallas :Nineveh:

Also see:

Obama [Gog]

serpentdove · Aug 14, 2016

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northwye · Aug 14, 2016

"There is no "New World Order " threatening to "destroy civilization." It's nothing but an urban legend created by the conspiracy theory industry . Yet so many gullible conservatives actually believe in it . Go figure."

What is meant by the New World Order is not exactly as George H.W. Bush defined it in his January 29, 1991 speech, "What is at stake is more than one small country; it is a big idea: a new world order, where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind–peace and security, freedom, and the rule of law. . .

The end of the cold war has been a victory for all humanity. A year and a half ago, in Germany, I said that our goal was a Europe whole and free. Tonight, Germany is united. Europe has become whole and free, and America’s leadership was instrumental."

The concept of the ruling elite is central to the definition of the New World Order. And the ruling elite that exists is the Anglo-American Establishment, plus some other members of that financial and corporate elite in Western Europe. Carroll Quigley's book, The Anglo-American Establishment: From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1981, provides some history of the earlier development of that ruling elite.

And - the ruling elite is not a conspiracy theory, since a number of university professors have studied it and written articles and books on that elite.

In the U.S. an important book on the ruling elite was written by sociologist C. Wright Mills, The Power Elite of 1956. Mills said that the power elite is made up of the political, military, and economic elites, and that the power elites get their power from the centralization of authority and power in society.

What Mills is saying is that by the fifties the major institutions of American society, especially government, corporations, education, the medical profession and institutional Christianity had developed into an extreme top-down order of control.

Because tremendous control over society could be exerted from the top of large corporations and from the top of the government, this hierarchy made it possible for a very small group of the ruling elite to have the power they now have. The ruling elite is not totally secret or behind the scenes; we know who some of them are. Now state, county and city governments follow the federal government. The corporate hierarchy has also driven a great many local small businesses out of business. For example, thirty, forty or fifty years ago, small grocery stores were scattered all over, but now we have to drive miles to Krogers, or Wal-Mart.

C. Wright Mills was a character from Waco, Texas. At a time when university professors dressed like preachers or bankers, and tried to present conventional images in gray flannel suits, Mills came roaring into the Columbia University area in New York City on his BMW motorcycle, wearing plaid shirts, old jeans, and work boots, carrying his books in a duffel bag. Nevertheless, the university gave him tenure. If someone was able to bring C. Wright Mills in his guerrilla warrior outfit from the year 1958 to present day Columbia University, the products of Political Correctness in the University might run screaming down Park Avenue calling for the cops to get this terrorist.

In The Power Elite (1956), he did not go into the psychological makeup of this very small ruling elite. Below them there is a ruling class of bureaucrats,lawyers, doctors, some professors, members of Congress, and local officials,

Sociologist Mills in The Power Elite did not deal with the membership of the ruling elite in secret societies like Skull and Bones, or High Level Freemasonry.

Yet The Power Elite (1956) was a pioneering academic work on the ruling elite. Since 1956 there has grown up a literature by professors on the ruling elite which is mostly focused upon the organizations which the ruling elite use to get together and plan, such as the Council On Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderbergers.

The mainstream media considered the idea that there was an organization called the Bilderbergers to be a conspiracy theory until very recent years when the Alternative Media was able to broadcast and stream in real time worldwide from outside the meetings. Old style journalist Jim Tucker began reporting on the Bilderberger meetings in 1991, at a time when the media said this was all conspiracy theory. Tucker continued going to Bilderberger meetings and somehow managed to obtain information on what went on in the meetings from informants. He pointed out that the Bilderbergers often invited Americans to their meetings who were later elected President. Tucker died in 2013.

America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones, for example, was written by Antony Sutton who was a non-tenured faculty member at Stanford University. This was the first book on the secret society aspect of the ruling elite.

Remember that Newt Gingrich said that one big reason the Establishment - in both major political parties - rejects Donald Trump is because he was not a member of their secret societies. He is not a Bonesman or a high level Mason.