bibleverse2
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Note that what has been expressed has been based on what the scriptures themselves say (2 Timothy 4:2-4).
No Death Penalty. What Is Your Position?
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Note that what has been expressed has been based on what the scriptures themselves say (2 Timothy 4:2-4).
You use scripture for support and not for illumination. You attempt to support a lie with the truth. This is what Satan did with Eve and what Satan tried with Yah Shua in the wilderness.
bibleverse2
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Note that no scripture has been used to support a lie (1 Thessalonians 2:13).
The devil's theology is to contradict God's Word with something which sounds better to humans, in order to deceive them into rejecting God's will (Genesis 3:1-6, Matthew 16:21-23; 1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Timothy 4:3-4).
Also, to arrive at correct doctrine, a verse in one place in the Bible must be compared with (conditioned by) other, related verses elsewhere in the Bible (Isaiah 28:9-10; 1 Corinthians 2:13). Our doctrine must be based on what the entire Bible says (2 Timothy 3:16, Matthew 4:4), and not just on what some unconditioned verses say.
For example, note how Jesus Christ put a condition on the verse in Matthew 4:6 (Psalms 91:12) with the verse in Matthew 4:7 (Deuteronomy 6:16). When Jesus said: "It is written again" (Matthew 4:7), He was referring to the principle of Isaiah 28:9-10. For in Matthew 4:7 the original Greek word (palin: G3825) translated as "again" can mean "furthermore" (Strong's Greek Dictionary).
You have an intellectual understanding of scripture and theology, but what you have is outward and possessed by many. You have no inward work, understanding or love of the truth.
glassjester
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The Church had deacons, priests, bishops, and popes before it had a settled canon of Scripture. This is just historical fact. Remind me again, where'd you get that list of inspired books from?
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The RCC does NOT determine what is and what is not Scripture.
No, it's called historical revisionism.
The Lord Jesus Christ.
ok doser
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so if i come across a man raping a little girl and watch him proceed to kill her, i shouldn't intervene?
i should just forgive him and go on my merry way?
Bradley D
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As a Christian I am to always love others and hope for conversion of sinners. Jesus told the woman to go and sin no more. Romans 13 Paul tells me that God has set up governments, because they are needed and if I break the law I must pay for it. I am against the death penalty. I believe life in prison gives a person time to repent and be saved. If not they will will have to face God the Ultimate Judge in the end. That will be worse than the death penalty. Also I find that too many people have been cleared of death penalty charges through DNA and other means. One person wrongly put to death is one too many.
ok doser
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a curious thing to say, for sure, especially in light of his prior statement that indicated that all men sin
and how many innocent people killed by murderers allowed to escape justice are too many?
These two sentences do not go together.
Someone who breaks the law, "do not murder," must pay for it with his life, because God said "life for life."
Bradley, are you a parent?
We'll get to this after you answer my question...
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That makes no sense at all.
Bradley D
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One murder is one too many. God will judge all in the end. If I were murdered I would not want the person to receive the death penalty. King David had Bathsheba's husband Uriah killed, because he committed with Bathsheba.
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These sorts of vague generalities prove nothing.
Your desires do not prove anything either.
Non-sequitur
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Sure, He will. But in the meantime, He expects governments to punish criminals appropriately.
Sorry, Brad, but you're too nice. You're trying to be nicer than God, and that's a sin.
Jesus was wrongly executed.
ok doser
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Arthur Brain
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There were already witnesses to the event. They were trying to wrangle a charge against Jesus but instead were taught their own lesson, that none of them were sinless. Where it comes to OT law then Jesus brought about change didn't He? Why have the NT if everything was supposed to carry on as old? That doesn't mean that the law is discarded either.
I wouldn't say it was "wild" exactly but my speculation is that Jesus may have written a list on the ground of behaviours that everyone in the crowd would at least have been guilty of some; lying, coveting, greed, lust etc. Not one person in the crowd felt confident enough to lay claim to be without sin and pick up a stone did they?
ok doser
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criminally tragic
and so we have no good outcome for those who are wrongfully convicted
so let's drop from the conversation any pretense that "compensation" has any validity
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