New poll finds California voters resoundingly oppose cash reparations for slavery
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Notice that scripture doesn't say how much of the corners of the field the farmer was to leave. That depends on the generosity of the giver and reveals one of two things. Their love for their fellow man or their selfishness. The man who left a lot was blessed by God as He promised. The4 skinflint also revealed what was in his heart.Irrelevant. We're talking governmental responsibilities. Unless you would like to try to associate such verses with governmental responsibility, which I guarantee you will have a very hard time doing...
Did you not notice whom God is speaking to?
(Hint: it's not the government!)
"The GOVERNMENT has no right to implement such policies."
No one has said anything about "from my hand to yours" charity.
Not even the passage where it explicitly permits one to go into his neighbors field and take to eat until one is full does it say that the government should be allowed to take and redistribute the crops to all the hungry people, and in fact, it expressly forbids taking agricultural implements to the field and/or storing what you harvest in a container to take away.
“When you come into your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes at your pleasure, but you shall not put any in your container. When you come into your neighbor’s standing grain, you may pluck the heads with your hand, but you shall not use a sickle on your neighbor’s standing grain.
Bible Gateway passage: Deuteronomy 23:24, Deuteronomy 23:25 - New King James Version
“When you come into your neighbor’s vineyard, you may eat your fill of grapes at your pleasure, but you shall not put any in your container.www.biblegateway.com
This goes along with the passage in Leviticus:
When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. And you shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the poor and the stranger: I am the Lord your God.
Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 19:9, Leviticus 19:10 - New King James Version
‘When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest.www.biblegateway.com
Note how it allows people to take as they pass through, but does not permit mass harvesting it.
The only reason the government should be involved in someone's field is if someone who does not own the field is mass harvesting his neighbor's field for himself, taking what does not belong to him, which is theft, and therefore falls under criminal justice.
Which is completely consistent with what I said above.
That's why paying taxes isn't charity. It disguises what is in a person's heart from their fellow man.
I'd say the entire nation is being oppressed by the government.
Matter of perspective.
Again, this has nothing to do with what I said, which was that the GOVERNMENT does not have the right to implement such policies as listed previously.
Well you got that right, at least.
Now apply it to your position on "slavery reparations" and how you've been taxed out of your hard earned money to pay dead people.
Do you see the problem yet?
If you could now address the point I was making earlier, that'd be great.
Why do you think I was disagreeing with you? I was reinforcing what you said.
True!
Gary Allen, is that you?(His book is where I, quite some time ago, first had pointed out to me the important fact you mention here.)
I actually saw it on a meme of all things. At first I thought the meme was wrong, but then I thought about it more and more and realized it is correct.
Well, yes, that is true.
I was referring to the sort of Roman Empire, slave oppression kind of thing.
When Leftists talk about oppression in America they are usually lying about things like systemic racism and all that nonsense. That's what I mean when I say there is no oppression in America.
But of course the extremist leftists in the Dem party are certainly encroaching on our rights every day, and suppressing their political opponents.
I apologize, I thought you were Eric H. What I get for being so tired.
That one is also wrong.
Anarchy is evil, and therefore cannot be right.
A correct understanding of the political spectrum, which is based on the direction of the flow of authority can be found here:
Arthur Brain
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Hmm, this only goes to show either how ignorant you are as to what constitutes the political spectrum or are simply invested in devising one of your own making that has no basis in reality. The fact is that one of the major threats where it comes to safeguarding issues in the UK emanates from far right ideology, be that political, religious or else. Typical examples include neo Nazi outfits, anti gay hate groups etc. That's the reality and having seen some opinions expressed on here as to how society should be subjugated to certain "ideals" it's precious little wonder why the far right are a red flag...
Arthur Brain
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Nah, just a laughably subjective one that can't be sustained by any measure of objectivity.That one is also wrong.
Anarchy is evil, and therefore cannot be right.
A correct understanding of the political spectrum, which is based on the direction of the flow of authority can be found here:
Arthur Brain
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How on earth would you know? As glib and ignorant as it gets.
On what basis do you determine that it is subjective?
All authority flows down from God, who is THE objective standard. Thus, anything that conforms to His authority is good, and not subjective.
Objectively speaking, you are trying to assert your subjective opinion as though you are authoritative on the matter.
Do you not see the contradiction in that?
Arthur Brain
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Because it's the subjective opinion of a man, one you might venerate and have high regard for but so what? Any objective standard has no such trite and biased parameters where it comes to politics.
Arthur Brain
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I never said Anarchy is right as in it is correct. I said they are on the far right, as in the opposite of the far left.
One extreme is totalitarian control, dictatorship, Nazism and Communism . . . and the other extreme is Anarchy, no government, no rules.
Both are evil.
That's just your subjective opinion.
Nope.
Right, so what? God is the objective standard. That by definition puts Him on the right.
Everything else is left of Him.
So conforming to God's rules for humanity is a "trite and biased parameter"?
Yes, I was pointing out the irony of YOUR post.
I didn't say you did.
I said that anarchy is a leftist ideal, just as totalitarian governments are a leftist ideal, because both are opposite of God's standards, which is that a king should rule.
The "far right" is on the left.
The true far right tries to conform to God's standards.
Both of which are "left" of God.
Did you even look at the graphs?
And thus both are left, and not right.
Which is what I said.
I'mcurious. Why do you think God is on either side of the political spectrum? The Pharisees were the conservatives of their day. The Sadducees were the liberals of their day, politically speaking. One of the reasons both agreed to kill Jesus was because he was attacking both of their cherished doctrines and they assumed he was going to take their political power away.
Who was he speaking to? The leaders of the nation at Jesus' trial.