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Speaking of respecting the beliefs of other people.....
I have to say that I have done some small amount of study on the Native Americans of the United Staes of America, well....more than a small amount, but not as much as I would like.
But I did attend a POw-Wow. Anyway...
There’s one thing about many Native American Peoples that I really respect. They refer to God as Great Spirit.
I like it. That is good. IMHO.
I have to say that I have done some small amount of study on the Native Americans of the United Staes of America, well....more than a small amount, but not as much as I would like.
But I did attend a POw-Wow. Anyway...
There’s one thing about many Native American Peoples that I really respect. They refer to God as Great Spirit.
I like it. That is good. IMHO.
Sorry, I can’t give you an instant answer on that question. It would take me along time to present the view on it I currently hold. But, to save some time, I will ask you this.
Are you aware that in the United States of America, in recent years and decades it has been shown that people have been executed for crimes they did not commit?
This being so, it is my opinion that the death penalty, though sometimes probably beneficially applied, should be outlawed because if even one innocent person has been killed because of it, it is wrong. IMO.
Killing an innocent person is murder, not the death penalty, even if the death penalty by name. But even more fundamental of a question, and not just murder, is if the death penalty should ever be enacted. Did Jesus' death on the cross change that?
There are no innocent people, no not one.
Every human being ever born is innocent, as there is no guilt when a crime has not been committed.
Even Jesus agreed with this fact, claiming that little children are not condemned sinners, rather they are Earthly children of their Father in Heaven.
k0de
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You are unconsciously quoting scriptures. It is evident that God (Jesus) is preparing you to be a powerful vessel for His Church. Continue with your study and research of different religions. And some day I believe that you will surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ and preach His living Word the Bible.
Did I just prophesied?
Alleluia!
Guyver I don't have to write down the passages or verses or numbers it's already in heart and it shows. And you said that you are an expert in scriptures. So you should know where to look.
Until when will you continue resisting the call of the Holy Ghost?
That does not mean that to kill someone is never murder. There is none who is righteous, no not one. But there is such a thing as someone who is innocent.
That's one religious interpretation.
Another one is that the doctrine of original sin is a false doctrine. It's certainly not something Jesus agreed with. Jesus, like David and Solomon, earlier bible writers than the Apostle Paul, believed that there were two kinds of people in the world. The good and the bad. The righteous and the unrighteous, the just and the unjust. He showed that little children were not born in original sin by stating that they are children of God, and they have angels in heaven.
The fact that people are born both good and bad, goes back to the story of the first two people ever born naturally....the sons of Adam. One, Cain was evil, and other Abel was righteous.
In Matthew chapter 23 verse 35, Jesus himself said Abel was righteous. In Matthew chapter nine, Jesus said, "But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
Thus indicating that there were both righteous people and sinful people that exist in the world. If all the world were evil sinners, then Jesus would have said so. But he did not.
So, Jesus and Paul disagree about the doctrine of original sin....according to the bible.
It's not an interpretation it's the truth. You oppose and deny the truth at every opportunity.
Do you know that the verse you just quoted was taken out of context by the Apostle Paul when he used it to defend the false doctrine of original sin? Yeah. You can find it for yourself.
Romans chapter 3 verse 10 says, "As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;"
This was drawn from earlier scriptures like Psalm 14:3 which states, "The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside,They have together become corrupt;There is none who does good,
No, not one."
But this was taken out of context, because the context of the religious song was the wicked people, who do not seek God. It doesn't claim that all people are unjust, wicked, or unrighteous, because earlier in the work of the Psalms, God through the Holy Spirit praised the people who are righteous and seek good.
Here is Psalm chapter 1 to confirm the statement I just made, and supported with bible.
"Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the [a]ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
And in His law he meditates day and night.
3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the [c]rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so,
But are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the Lord knows the way of the righteous,
But the way of the ungodly shall perish."
I purposely bolded the last part for emphasis.
Well, that's one way of seeing it. Here's another.
It would be untruthful to believe God unrighteous because he could not be. It is his nature to be right, not wrong. It is his nature to be good, not evil. It is his nature to be just; not unjust.
To hold someone accountable for a sin that they never committed would be unrighteous, even as holding you guilty and punishing you with death for a sin that you did not commit. Like, if you have a son and he murders someone. It would be unjust and unlawful to punish you for the crime he committed.
What you have said here sounds good to me so far. I do not believe that he took it out of context, but I know of what you are talking about. Psalm 1 is good too.
May peace be with you Brother KOde.
Elohim is Good. He is intrinsically Good and cannot be judged by your carnal mind.
At the end of the first day, he saw what He had done and declared it good. He has said the same thing at the end of each and every day since because it is His work and by nature, it is all a good work.
k0de
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First you say and then you say,
Which one is it?
Consider your religion 2,000 years from now. The list of contradictions probably will a mile long. Much longer than your arm[emoji3].
You just quoted the second greatest commandment unconsciously.
Observe, Leviticus 19:18. Aside from loving God, this is the cardinal point of all the laws and personal holiness. It is the corrective to all the previous negative behaviors. In the nt, Jesus quotes this as the second greatest of all the commandments (Matt 22:39; Mark 12:31).
And I know you know the greatest of all.
Consider yourself blessed because the Lord have blessed you with a mighty computer on your shoulders. Not many men have this. So repent and receive the power of the Holy Ghost.
The Lord is waiting for you with open arms you prodigal son....
May peace be with you also Brother!
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