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Morpheus

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Wild assumption noted.

No assumptions whatsoever. This thread is primarily shared by a group of people who have many years of history together. It is similar to the group of people who push the tables together when they go to the pizza joint together. As it stands, your part in this play is the guy at the next table listening in, so wanting to join the group, yet not really knowing any of the crowd. There are subtleties to relationships that can often be misconstrued by outsiders. Careful not to be that guy who jumps in to that conversation blindly, alienating himself from a crowd that doesn't even know him yet. I'm just saying, take time enough to ease in and learn how things work here, and who the regulars are, or else you may find yourself marginalized as a troll.
 

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No assumptions whatsoever.
You seem to be someone who has trouble with context.

You said:

"since a fundy Christian government's laws would look much different than those we have now".

That is a wild assumption that has nothing to do with being familiar with any players on this site (unless you think there are political power participants who hang out here).
 

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Doc, now you're being a bit dishonest. You know as well as I do, since we have so many historical examples, that if fundamentalist Christians ever got their idea of an"Christian nation", where they were in charge, the law would look nothing like what we have now. Burning at the stake for such subjective crimes as heresy would return quite quickly. Zealots of any kind aren't interested in truth or justice; power and control through fear is their endgame. Religion only gives them a means to their end.

You conflate pharisaical Zionism with fundamentalists. The Pharisees are scary, no doubt. But, the true scriptural believers I know, they believe in the God of freedom who is so good who wouldn't want to choose his ways? No, with their Bibles open to Leviticus, these Pharisees will be dragging people out stoning them to death.

There is, however, a Christianity that makes one's heart dance in the clouds as more than our wildest dreams becomes reality. It can tolerate a little petulance.

I once witnessed to a guy who asked me, sardonically, if there are orgies in Heaven- because if there weren't he didn't want to go. I told him "yes there are, or, something better". I felt very confident in the something better part.
 

bybee

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You conflate pharisaical Zionism with fundamentalists. The Pharisees are scary, no doubt. But, the true scriptural believers I know, they believe in the God of freedom who is so good who wouldn't want to choose his ways? No, with their Bibles open to Leviticus, these Pharisees will be dragging people out stoning them to death.

There is, however, a Christianity that makes one's heart dance in the clouds as more than our wildest dreams becomes reality.

I once witnessed to a guy who asked me, sardonically, if there are orgies in Heaven- because if there weren't he didn't want to go. I told him "yes, there are, or, there is something better". I felt very confident in the something better, part.
I suspect that your documented unrelenting hatred of Jews shall preclude your invitation to Heavenly Bliss?

You know, hatred is a self--consuming emotion.
 

Cam

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I suspect that your documented unrelenting hatred of Jews shall preclude your invitation to Heavenly Bliss?

You know, hatred is a self--consuming emotion.

Hey sugar, get back to me when I say the world is a better place after a few young Jews are shot dead.
 
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Cam

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I acknowledge, there is a fealty to Jews I do not have.

Post 42, Patrick Jane: i don't know what you guys are talking about, but it should be Sarah Silverman. can a man ask for anything more ? funny, smart, beautiful. and Jewish. perfect

Ostensibly in response to ACW, post 7:

Since when is secular Jew Sarah Silverman's filth considered art?
http://www.mrc.org/articles/sarah-silverman-jesus-f-ing-christ-mock-faith-abortion-psa

My bad, I keep forgetting that "art" to liberals is amongst other things putting a replica of Jesus Christ crucified on the Cross into a container full of urine (Robert Mapplethorpe).

These Pharisees can be nasty pigs.
 
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Cam

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Charlie Hebdo

By Paul Craig Roberts

PaulCraigRoberts.org

January 15, 2015

The Charlie Hebdo affair has many of the characteristics of a false flag operation. The attack on the cartoonists’ office was a disciplined professional attack of the kind associated with highly trained special forces; yet the suspects who were later corralled and killed seemed bumbling and unprofessional. It is like two different sets of people.

Usually Muslim terrorists are prepared to die in the attack; yet the two professionals who hit Charlie Hebdo were determined to escape and succeeded, an amazing feat. Their identity was allegedly established by the claim that they conveniently left for the authorities their ID in the getaway car. Such a mistake is inconsistent with the professionalism of the attack and reminds me of the undamaged passport found miraculously among the ruins of the two WTC towers that served to establish the identity of the alleged 9/11 hijackers.

It is a plausible inference that the ID left behind in the getaway car was the ID of the two Kouachi brothers, convenient patsies, later killed by police, and from whom we will never hear anything, and not the ID of the professionals who attacked Charlie Hebdo. An important fact that supports this inference is the report that the third suspect in the attack, Hamyd Mourad, the alleged driver of the getaway car, when seeing his name circulating on social media as a suspect realized the danger he was in and quickly turned himself into the police for protection against being murdered by security forces as a terrorist.

Hamyd Mourad says he has an iron-clad alibi. If so, this makes him the despoiler of a false flag attack. Authorities will have to say that despite being wrong about Mourad, they were right about the Kouachi brothers. Alternatively, Mourad could be coerced or tortured into some sort of confession that supports the official story (torture which numerous TOL'ers endorse).

The American and European media have ignored the fact that Mourad turned himself in for protection from being killed as a terrorist as he has an alibi. I googled Hamid Mourad and all I found (January 12) was the main US and European media reporting that the third suspect had turned himself in. The reason for his surrender was left out of the reports. The news was reported in a way that gave credence to the accusation that the suspect who turned himself in was part of the attack on Charlie Hebdo. Not a single US mainstream media source reported that the alleged suspect turned himself in because he has an ironclad alibi.

Some media merely reported Mourad’s surrender in a headline with no coverage in the report. The list that I googled includes the Washington Post (January 7 by Griff Witte and Anthony Faiola); Die Welt (Germany) “One suspect has turned himself in to police in connection with Wednesday’s massacre at the offices of Parisian satirical magazine, Charlie Hebdo;” ABC News (January 7) “Youngest suspect in Charlie Hebdo Attack turns himself in;” CNN (January 8) “Citing sources, the Agence France Presse news agency reported that an 18-year-old suspect in the attack had surrendered to police.”

Another puzzle in the official story that remains unreported by the presstitute media is the alleged suicide of a high ranking member of the French Judicial Police who had an important role in the Charlie Hebdo investigation. For unknown reasons, Helric Fredou, a police official involved in the most important investigation of a lifetime, decided to kill himself in his police office on January 7 or January 8 (both dates are reported in the foreign media) in the middle of the night while writing his report on his investigation. A google search as of 6pm EST January 13 turns up no mainstream US media report of this event. The alternative media reports it, as do some UK newspapers, but without suspicion or mention whether his report has disappeared. The official story is that Fredou was suffering from “depression” and “burnout,” but no evidence is provided. Depression and burnout are the standard explanations of mysterious deaths that have unsettling implications.

Once again we see the US print and TV media serving as a ministry of propaganda for Washington. In place of investigation, the media repeats the government’s implausible story.

It behoves us all to think. Why would Muslims be more outraged by cartoons in a Paris magazine than by hundreds of thousands of Muslims killed by Washington and its French and NATO vassals in seven countries during the past 14 years?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUCwCgthp_E

If Muslims wanted to make a point of the cartoons, why not bring a hate crime charge or lawsuit? Imagine what would happen to a European magazine that dared to satirize Jews in the way Charlie Hebdo satirized Muslims. Indeed, in Europe people are imprisoned for investigating the holocaust without entirely confirming every aspect of it.

If a Muslim lawsuit was deep-sixed by French authorities, the Muslims would have made their point. Killing people merely contributes to the demonization of Muslims, a result that only serves Washington’s wars against Muslim countries.

If Muslims are responsible for the attack on Charlie Hebdo, what Muslim goal did they achieve? None whatsoever. Indeed, the attack attributed to Muslims has ended French and European sympathy and support for Palestine and European opposition to more US wars against Muslims. Just recently France had voted in the UN with Palestine against the US-Israeli position. This assertion of an independent French foreign policy was reinforced by the recent statement by the President of France that the economic sanctions against Russia should be terminated.

Clearly, France was showing too much foreign policy independence. The attack on Charlie Hebdo serves to cow France and place France back under Washington’s thumb.

Some will contend that Muslims are sufficiently stupid to shoot themselves in the head in this way. But how do we reconcile such alleged stupidity with the alleged Muslim 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo professional attacks?

If we believe the official story, the 9/11 attack on the US shows that 19 Muslims, largely Saudis, without any government or intelligence service support, outwitted not only all 16 US intelligence agencies, the National Security Council, Dick Cheney and all the neoconservatives in high positions throughout the US government, and airport security, but also the intelligence services of NATO and Israel’s Mossad. How can such intelligent and capable people, who delivered the most humiliating blow in world history to an alleged Superpower with no difficulty whatsoever despite giving every indication of their intentions, possibly be so stupid as to shoot themselves in the head when they could have thrown France into turmoil with a mere lawsuit?

The Charlie Hebdo story simply doesn’t wash. If you believe it, you are no match for a Muslim.

Some who think that they are experts will say that a false flag attack in France would be impossible without the cooperation of French intelligence. To this I say that it is practically a certainty that the CIA has more control over French intelligence than does the President of France. Operation Gladio proves this. The largest part of the government of Italy was ignorant of the bombings conducted by the CIA and Italian Intelligence against European women and children and blamed on communists in order to diminish the communist vote in elections.

Americans are a pitifully misinformed people. All of history is a history of false flag operations. Yet Americans dismiss such proven operations as “conspiracy theories,” which merely proves that government has successfully brainwashed insouciant Americans and deprived them of the ability to recognize the truth.

Americans are the foremost among the captive nations.

Who will liberate them?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/01/paul-craig-roberts/false-flag/
 

Cam

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You won't say that. You know better.

You devil! You have the audacity to accuse me of those sentiments!

Yet not one of you has called out the guy who explicitly made those remarks. But, Nazaroo defended them.

Devil!
 

shagster01

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I'll leave that honor for you. All the poster told you was to not break the law. You seem to think that the laws Christians endorse are a reason for you to fear. Why is that?

I don't not fear them. They are dangerous. I have been over this already.

Most Christian laws are as asinine as Muslim ones. Many are exactly the same as a matter of fact.

I am done posting the same things over and over because people like you refuse to get it.


What would your reaction be if a Muslim just said, "don't break the law," to you after installing sharia law?
 

Cam

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I don't not fear them. They are dangerous. I have been over this already.

Most Christian laws are as asinine as Muslim ones. Many are exactly the same as a matter of fact.

I am done posting the same things over and over because people like you refuse to get it.


What would your reaction be if a Muslim just said, "don't break the law," to you after installing sharia law?

15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty 2 Cor 3

1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 1

Get away from the Pharisees and find actual followers of Jesus.
 

bybee

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You devil! You have the audacity to accuse me of those sentiments!

Yet not one of you has called out the guy who explicitly made those remarks. But, Nazaroo defended them.

Devil!

You are lost in La-La Land!
 

Nick M

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No, but you are. The poster was simply told that he should have no fear if he doesn't break the law. He accused that person of being a member of a terrorist organization. The poster apparently lacks any respect for law. You apparently lack any sense.

Welcome to TOL.
 

Cam

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You are lost in La-La Land!

That's all you have, a childish quip, because the spotlight is on and the roaches can only scatter.

'Thank you, Jesus, for the internet and the ability to answer this ungodliness with both the truth of the Word and the undoing of this Orwellian media brainwashing.'

My life on this earth will not prevail. The truth will prevail.
 

shagster01

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No, but you are. The poster was simply told that he should have no fear if he doesn't break the law. He accused that person of being a member of a terrorist organization. The poster apparently lacks any respect for law. You apparently lack any sense.

I didn't accuse anyone of being a member of a terrorist organization. Where are you pulling this stuff from?

I said Taliban also says to just follow the law. If you think that means you or anyone else is a member you must have a guilty conscience.

But quit reading things that are not there. Somehow by me saying Taliban also says to follow rules, you have reasoned that I hate all laws and that your friends are terrorists.


Grow up and quit being dishonest. I said none of the things you keep saying I did.
 

shagster01

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The subject is islam you buffoon.

Fundamental islam = chop heads of unbelievers.

Fundamental Christianity = shake the sand off the shoes and move on

Oh, shake sand off shoes. When you talk about nuking the middle east that must be a code for "shaking sand off."
 

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We have a duty to defend ourselves against an unrelenting monstrous threat.

Bybee: I fear an insidious and devious spread of Islam.
I shall not be still in the face of it.

Bybee: Not Devils, but, very fearful of the Islamic agenda in America. It is tragic that three young Muslims were killed just as it is tragic whenever innocent blood is shed.

Half a world away from the battlefields. More in danger from slipping in the bathtub than a terrorist attack, you are full of fear, lacking faith, and you are putty in the hands of the puppet masters.
 
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