Mormon Golden Plates Do Not Exist -

musterion

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i thought he hid them in his ubercool hat

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Darby!
 

musterion

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Mormonism's insistence that the Bible was corrupted is fundamentally self-refuting and destroys Mormonism from the get-go..
 

tetelestai

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Before Joseph Smith, there was no Mormonism.

Before John Nelson Darby, there was no Dispensationalism.

Smith and Darby were contemporaries. Darby was born in 1800, Smith was born in 1805
 
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tetelestai

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Kinda like the Urantia guy that came later

Both Mormonism and Dispensationalism were invented during "the age of the cults".

"This remarkable growth seems to be related to a peculiar nineteenth century American interest in prophetic things. Evidence of this absorbing American concentration on prophecy lies not just in the spread of dispensationalism (a fundamentalist phenomenon), but in the concurrent arising of the many last days/millennial cults. We think especially of the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter-day Saints (the Mormons began the same year as dispensationalism, 1830); the Jehovah's Witnesses; the Seventh Adventists." - When Time Shall Be No More: Propohecy Belief in Modern American Culture
 

tetelestai

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"Mormonism, dispensationalism and Tractarianism all emerged from the Anglo-American evangelical milieu at the exact same moment, 1830-34." - Brent S. Sirota, Historian, North Carolina St.
 

OCTOBER23

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I read many books on Joseph Smith and the Mormons about 20 years ago.

It seems like he was a young man who , along with his friends, tried to

SWINDLE money out of Local farmers and made he them very angry and

he had to get out of town really fast. His Golden Tablets etc were just

another ruse to gain money and a following.
 

Sherman

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FYI This topic belongs in Religion, not ECT. So I put in in Religion.
 

tetelestai

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Tet doesn't realize how desperate he looks with his moron comparison

No, just showing that Dispensationalism was invented by a man, just like Mormonism was invented by a man.

And, that they were both invented at about the same time (1830)
 

turbosixx

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Did they ever ? Seems a little fishy.

Golden plates
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Origin


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According to Latter Day Saint belief, the golden plates (also called the gold plates or in some 19th-century literature, the golden bible)[1] are the source from which Joseph Smith said he translated the Book of Mormon, a sacred text of the faith. Some witnesses described the plates as weighing from 30 to 60 pounds (14 to 27 kg),[2] being golden in color, and being composed of thin metallic pages engraved on both sides and bound with three D-shaped rings.

Smith said he found the plates on September 22, 1823, at a hill near his home in Manchester, New York, after the angel Moroni directed him to a buried stone box. Smith said the angel at first prevented him from taking the plates, but instructed him to return to the same location in a year. In September 1827, on his fourth annual attempt to retrieve the plates, Smith returned home with a heavy object wrapped in a frock, which he then put in a box. Though he allowed others to heft the box, he said that the angel had forbidden him to show the plates to anyone until they had been translated from their original "reformed Egyptian" language. Smith dictated the text of the Book of Mormon over the next several years, claiming that it was a translation of the plates. He did this by using a seer stone, which he placed in the bottom of a hat and then placed the hat over his face to view the words written within the stone.[3] Smith published the translation in 1830 as the Book of Mormon.

Smith eventually obtained testimonies from eleven men, known as the Book of Mormon witnesses, who said they had seen the plates.[4] After the translation was complete, Smith said he returned the plates to the angel Moroni. Therefore the plates cannot now be examined. Latter Day Saints believe the account of the golden plates as a matter of faith, while critics often assert that either Smith manufactured the plates himself[5] or that the Book of Mormon witnesses based their testimony on visions rather than physical experience.

It's TOTALLY fishy
 

Nick M

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Southpark had a pretty good episode on Mormons and the gold plates some years back.
 
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