McBurney By the Numbers

[Jefferson]

McBurney By the Numbers

This is the show from Monday, November 19th, 2012.

SUMMARY:

* Barbara Reads Her Bible! Listen in as Bob’s guest host Doug McBurney asks the brightest audience in the nation for a little help unraveling a seemingly mysterious passage in Philippians 2:10. Thankfully Barbara was out there with some insight that further developed Doug’s understanding of “every knee” bowing and confessing Jesus is Lord!

* The Drone Wars Begin: Listen in a Doug reveals his fear of drones… but then covers the story of some pigeon hunting marksmen that should give us all hope!

* Will Nimrod Prevail in Palestine? After enduring more than 8000 rocket attacks in the past few years, Israel has struck back at the Islamists occupying Gaza. But remembering Bob’s story about the first baby born in the modern state of Israel, (named Nimrod) and ask yourself if modern day Israel can rely on divine protection…

* Hate to Agree with the Caliphate… But: Egypt’s top prosecutor has called for a ban on pornographic websites. Doug points out that the torrent of sexual immorality in America will be stopped; it’s just whether it will be at the hands of the Christians, or the Moslems…

* The 113th, in 2013, under the 44th: the 2013 American Congress will be the 113th congress, presided over by the 44th president. This is a numerologically uncomfortable situation we find ourselves in. And it’s not just the numerology folks, it’s the lying, thieving, baby killing, homo-loving politicians as well!

* The San Francisco Treat: San Francisco has slid so far down to hell in their brightly colored hand basket that a local city supervisor is planning a vote to enforce a dress code… well, really just clothing upon the Castro district!

* Just a System: While somewhere I America a judge is forcibly shaving Islamist terrorist Nidal Hassan, a judge in Cleveland has ordered a motor vehicle scofflaw to wear a sing in public asserting her idiocy. But when the justice system becomes “just-a-system” who are the real idiots?

 

[gcthomas]

McBurney By the Numbers
* it’s the lying, thieving, baby killing, homo-loving politicians as well!

What a sentence! Doesn't the bible have something to say about spewing this level of bigotry?

"So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander ... who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return" 1 Peter 2:1-25 ?

 

[Granite]

The day when fanatical Muslims and fanatical Christians realize they should work together? That'll be a dark day indeed. We'll be screwed.

If anything, the state of Israel's existence pretty much guarantees that will probably never happen.:noid:

 

[gcthomas]

McBurney By the Numbers
* it’s the lying, thieving, baby killing, homo-loving politicians as well!

Do none of the good Christians on this forum object to this sort of bile? Is this sort of slander to be considered acceptable?

"So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander ... who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return" 1 Peter 2:1-25 ?

 

[Jefferson]

Do none of the good Christians on this forum object to this sort of bile? Is this sort of slander to be considered acceptable?

"So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander ... who, when He was reviled, did not revile in return" 1 Peter 2:1-25 ?

It's not slander if it's true.

 

[gcthomas]

It's not slander if it's true.

But it IS 'malice' and 'reviling'. Is it a good thing to revile people who tolerate those whose interpretation of the Bible is not the same as yours?

"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge." James 4:11

 

[Granite]

It's not slander if it's true.

Or if it makes you feel better.

 

[Persephone66]

McBurney told me in a youtube comment once that he was certain I was molested as a child. I'm not sure how he could be so certain.

 

[Jefferson]

But it IS 'malice' and 'reviling'. Is it a good thing to revile people who tolerate those whose interpretation of the Bible is not the same as yours?

"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge." James 4:11

The verse is speaking of brethren. McBurney referred to politicians. Hardly the same species.

 

[Granite]

McBurney told me in a youtube comment once that he was certain I was molested as a child. I'm not sure how he could be so certain.

Well that's nice and despicable...

 

[gcthomas]

The verse is speaking of brethren. McBurney referred to politicians. Hardly the same species.

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"But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way." Romans 14:1-23

"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:" 1 Corinthians 10:31-32
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Since these politicians are members of Christian churches, they ARE brethren.

So, Jefferson, a question on Christian morality: :think:

Is it GOOD to REVILE those whose interpretation of the SAME Bible is not the same as yours, or those who tolerate them?

 

[Jefferson]

gcthomas:

When a harsh word is needed God uses a harsh word. This is true in the Old and New Testaments. Herod beheaded John the Baptist for "rebuking" the king for "all the evils which Herod had done" (Luke 3:19) and for condemning the tetrarch for incestuous adultery (Mat. 14:3-4; Mark 6:17-18; Lev. 18:16; 20:21) with "Herodias, his brother Philip's wife" (Luke 3:19). Jesus warned of "the leaven of Herod" (Mark 8:15). When notified that "Herod wants to kill You," (Luke 13:31), Christ responded without respect, "Go, tell that fox, 'I cast out demons'…" (Luke 13:32).

The especially harsh term hypocrite is used in the Gospels twenty-three times. Christ often insulted the scribes, Pharisees and lawyers. He even called the Pharisees blind guides (Mat. 23:16, 24) and sons of hell (Mat. 23:15). Jesus spoke unkind words unacceptable today. He said to Peter "Get behind me, Satan" (Mat. 16:23). He told the Pharisees "You are of your father the devil" (John 8:44), and made a whip and cleared "thieves" from the temple (Mat. 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45-46; John 2:14:15).

Gentiles (as symbols of the godless) and sodomites are called "dogs" in the Bible (Mat. 7:6; 15:26; Deut. 23:17-18; Ps. 22:16; 59:5-6; Phil. 3:2; Rev. 22:15). And Jesus was harsh (not only to the Pharisees, as some believers wrongly assume but) to all the unrepentant (see His use of "hypocrite"). Jesus instructs Christians to not "cast your pearls before swine" (Mat. 7:6). Yet the silly dilemma now is, "Who could Christ possibly have meant by that, for we are too loving, tolerant, polite and respectful to refer to any human being by that mean-spirited term."

In the King James Version, the seductive women among the people of God are worse than "whores" (Ezek. 16:33). That crude term appears in the Bible dozens of times. The men who use those women are "whoremongers" (1 Tim. 1:10; Heb. 13:4; Rev. 21:8; 22:15), which is the most raw term in the English language to describe promiscuous men. God describes other sinners in terms of filthy excrement (Isa. 64:6) and even worse (2 Ki. 18:27; Isa. 36:12). Sinners truly are repulsive, regardless of how men may try to sanitize them.

The Bible does not say, "Hate the sin, love the sinner." It says, "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he" (Prov. 23:7). And that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5). "The Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man" (Ps 5:6). Also "the wicked and the one who loves violence [God] hates." (Ps 11:5). Further, "The face of the Lord is against those who do evil" (Ps 34:16). God "loves righteousness and hate wickedness (Ps. 45:7).

There are six things "the Lord hates," including "a heart that devises wicked plans… a false witness who speaks lies, and one who sows discord among brethren" (Prov. 6:16-19). And God reminds us "All their wickedness is in Gilgal, for there I hated them. Because of the evil of their deeds I will drive them from My house; I will love them no more" (Ho 9:13). As Moses wrote of God, "if you do not obey Me... My soul shall abhor you" (Lev. 26:27-30).

 

[Granite]

It also says a kind word turns away wrath.

At the end of the day you guys go to great lengths to justify acting like thoroughly unpleasant, uncivil, oafish, crude, rude, foul-mouthed human beings.

 

[gcthomas]

So, Jefferson, a question on Christian morality: :think:

Is it GOOD to REVILE those whose interpretation of the SAME Bible is not the same as yours, or those who tolerate them?

So, the answer to my question was a YES? Reviling brethren is OK for Christians?

 

[Jefferson]

So, the answer to my question was a YES? Reviling brethren is OK for Christians?

What do the scriptures I quoted tell you?

 

[gcthomas]

What do the scriptures I quoted tell you?

You have directly quoted only Bob Enyart
(You cut'n'pasted your entire post from here: http://kgov.com/nicer-than-god)

His word isn't scripture now, is it?

And I note that you still haven't answered my question as to your interpretation of biblical teaching. Is your only response to give me back my own interpretation? Don't you have your own?

 

[This Charming Manc]

You have a very selective choice in scripture.

What do the scriptures I quoted tell you?

 

[Jefferson]

You have directly quoted only Bob Enyart
(You cut'n'pasted your entire post from here: http://kgov.com/nicer-than-god)

His word isn't scripture now, is it?

And I note that you still haven't answered my question as to your interpretation of biblical teaching. Is your only response to give me back my own interpretation? Don't you have your own?

The 43 scripture references in my post are clear. They don't need to be "interpreted."

 

[gcthomas]

The 43 scripture references in my post are clear. They don't need to be "interpreted."

Then how come you have a different 'understanding' than many other Christian churches? Most preach tolerance of differences and some even have homosexual clergy and bishops. You don't. Same bible, different interpretation. QED. :bang:

 

[Granite]

Then how come you have a different 'understanding' than many other Christian churches? Most preach tolerance of differences and some even have homosexual clergy and bishops. You don't. Same bible, different interpretation. QED. :bang:

You don't know about Bob Enyart, do you?:chuckle: