Marijuana legalization: LESS government?

[intojoy]

I posted this earlier, my son is a veteran lapd officer who worked undercover in south central narc division. According to him many retired lapd smoke weed regularly. I have no reason to doubt it since I've smoked it, Clinton smoked it, Obama smoked it and Bush smoked it.

The ability to de stress oneself is enhanced by thc by a factor of 10.

Again, there are monsters hiding in broad daylight like Ariel Castro who are left behind due to the wasted stoner wars of the 1980's.

99% of child rape and torture is unreported in the news.

I can understand ex cops use of the drug to deal with decades of arresting dirtbag scums like Castro only to see them released again and again.


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[intojoy]

What, that the DEA are experts when it comes to the subject of recreational drug use and abuse?







I must have missed that, as you must have missed it when I asked for dope smokers to come forward to defend their vice.

http://www.theweedblog.com/smoking-marijuana-vs-vaporizing-marijuana-infographic/

How do you know these agents aren't getting high?

Your last three presidents did.




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[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
What, that the DEA are experts when it comes to the subject of recreational drug use and abuse?

How many dangerous prescription drugs have they let slide for the almighty $ ?

"The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is focusing on drug distributors in an effort to fight prescription painkiller abuse, The New York Times reports. In the past, the agency has tried tactics including arresting doctors and closing pharmacies."
http://www.drugfree.org/join-togeth...istributors-in-fight-against-painkiller-abuse



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I must have missed that, as you must have missed it when I asked for dope smokers to come forward to defend their vice.
http://www.theweedblog.com/smoking-m...a-infographic/

Oh, so you are cool with people vaporizing it or eating in food, just not smoking it? I figured you were just generalizing it into one.

They all have that pro dope mentality, so no.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

How do you know these agents aren't getting high?

I figured they were just sitting around looking at porn.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

This surprises me that a man that holds such high moral values would promote the legalization of dope.

Obama on Pot Legalization: 'It's Important for It to Go Forward'
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...on-its-important-for-it-to-go-forward/283201/

 

[intojoy]

I figured they were just sitting around looking at porn.

Ah, so you're not afraid to answer my question?

What is worse child porn or pot?


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[intojoy]

This surprises me that a man that holds such high moral values would promote the legalization of dope.



Obama on Pot Legalization: 'It's Important for It to Go Forward'

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...on-its-important-for-it-to-go-forward/283201/

Why did you vote for him?


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[aCultureWarrior]

Ah, so you're not afraid to answer my question?

What is worse child porn or pot?


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You are aware that there is something terribly wrong with you aren't you intojoy?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Why did you vote for him?


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Hmmm, did I vote for a pro abortion, pro homosexual Marxist?

 

[intojoy]

Hmmm, did I vote for a pro abortion, pro homosexual Marxist?

I sure didn't!


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[intojoy]

You are aware that there is something terribly wrong with you aren't you intojoy?

Sure . But I listened to a report about Obama and a local news station here, something he said about legalization of pot ? I missed it but then the reporter spoke about some efforts being made to fight child porn here and she mentioned some cases of abuse and the lack of police resources to fight the problem. I suggest dumping the war on pot to fight the real evil in society - lust.

I think you are a little naive tho.

I think the majority of right wing conservatives have been swept away and don't even realize they're done with. I myself am a right wing conservative but the rush limbaughs, mike medveds, and Carl roves of the past decade looked like fools in their political predictions. What a false hope and buzz killer their stupid false confidences produced twice now.

You can have a war on pot acw but its one you are going to lose. There are other problems in our society that are worth fighting. I know guys that went to high school with Obama and got high with him. Every actor and star in our society gets stoned or is friends with people who do. You sound like your in your 70's. If not then you are terribly out of touch with the majority of the country.

Here in Honolulu there's a demographic of older people that continue to vote for idiots like Gov Abercrombie and senator akaka and others . Until they die we have no hope for a conservative pro business economy.

I'm not saying you vote like they do but your opinions about pot are equally ignorant. Yes you've got a pothead epidemic of passive younger people on your hands. So what? They don't bother me at all.


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[aCultureWarrior]

You can have a war on pot acw but its one you are going to lose.

Those that stand for God's Word as seen in Holy Scripture are losing the battle against organized sin. Be it abortion, homosexuality, pornography (including kiddy porn), or the legalization of drugs, the forces of evil are currently winning this culture war.

Don't be naïve, look at the entire picture intojoy.

Back to dope:

Here's some information that you're probably not aware of:

"People high on marijuana beat their wives and children. They smoke and drive and kill people. They engage in violent crime. They do it all the time.

This is how USA Today reported on a recent federal study drug testing people after they were arrested:

In Chicago, 87% tested positive for drug use and in Sacramento, 78% tested positive. Many of the men — 40% in Chicago and 29% in Sacramento — tested positive for more than one drug.

Marijuana is the most common drug in every city where testing was done except Atlanta, where cocaine is most prevalent, the study found.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-27-arrestees_N.htm

And this is from a press release from the federal government:

Marijuana is the most commonly detected drug at the time of arrest. The percentage of arrestees testing positive for marijuana ranges from just under a third in Atlanta and Washington, D.C. to about half in Charlotte. Additionally, arrestees who are using marijuana use it frequently: in seven of the cities, marijuana users used the drug on average every other day during the past month..."
http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/01/27/crime-news-time-to-legalize-marijuana/


Here's the future for America's youth once marijuana is more available and laws become more lax:

"From 1992 to 2006, the potency of marijuana increased by 175.0 percent.

Marijuana is associated more strongly with juvenile crime than alcohol use.

From 1992 to 2006, there has been a 492.1 percent increase in the proportion of treatment admissions for persons under age 18 where clinical diagnosis was reported for marijuana abuse or dependence.

From 1992 to 2006, there has been a 188.1 percent increase in the proportion of treatment admissions for persons under age 18 who cite marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.

From 1995 to 2002, the percentage of drug related emergency department findings for marijuana as a major substance of abuse among 12- to 17-year olds increased by 136.4 percent.

Rates of daily marijuana use among 12th graders tripled from 1992 to 1999 and have stubbornly resisted significant change since then. In 2007, approximately 204,000 high school seniors (5.1 percent) used marijuana on a daily basis..."
http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/02/more-on-marijuana-and-crime-crime-statistics/

If you're going to push this poison on America, I only ask one thing of you:

That YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES use it as well.

 

[shagster01]

Here's some information that you're probably not aware of:

"People high on marijuana beat their wives and children. They smoke and drive and kill people. They engage in violent crime. They do it all the time.

Sober people do those stuff too. Maybe we should outlaw being Sober!

This is how USA Today reported on a recent federal study drug testing people after they were arrested:

In Chicago, 87% tested positive for drug use and in Sacramento, 78% tested positive. Many of the men — 40% in Chicago and 29% in Sacramento — tested positive for more than one drug.

Marijuana is the most common drug in every city where testing was done except Atlanta, where cocaine is most prevalent, the study found.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-27-arrestees_N.htm

And this is from a press release from the federal government:

Marijuana is the most commonly detected drug at the time of arrest. The percentage of arrestees testing positive for marijuana ranges from just under a third in Atlanta and Washington, D.C. to about half in Charlotte. Additionally, arrestees who are using marijuana use it frequently: in seven of the cities, marijuana users used the drug on average every other day during the past month..."
http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/01/27/crime-news-time-to-legalize-marijuana/

Most places still have laws make pot illegal. What you are saying is people who do illegal things do more illegal things than people who don't do illegal things.

Really?

Here's the future for America's youth once marijuana is more available and laws become more lax:

"From 1992 to 2006, the potency of marijuana increased by 175.0 percent.

Marijuana is associated more strongly with juvenile crime than alcohol use.

From 1992 to 2006, there has been a 492.1 percent increase in the proportion of treatment admissions for persons under age 18 where clinical diagnosis was reported for marijuana abuse or dependence.

From 1992 to 2006, there has been a 188.1 percent increase in the proportion of treatment admissions for persons under age 18 who cite marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.

From 1995 to 2002, the percentage of drug related emergency department findings for marijuana as a major substance of abuse among 12- to 17-year olds increased by 136.4 percent.

Rates of daily marijuana use among 12th graders tripled from 1992 to 1999 and have stubbornly resisted significant change since then. In 2007, approximately 204,000 high school seniors (5.1 percent) used marijuana on a daily basis..."
http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/03/02/more-on-marijuana-and-crime-crime-statistics/

Interesting that the number rose so much in the 90's when the war on drugs was in full effect, but in the mid-2000's, when laws have relaxed either with medical marijuana or recreational, the numbers have stopped growing so much. Thank you for sharing these telling stats.

If you're going to push this poison on America, I only ask one thing of you:

That YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES use it as well.

Challenge accepted!

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Sober people do those stuff too. Maybe we should outlaw being Sober!

Wow, I'm speechless.

Most places still have laws make pot illegal. What you are saying is people who do illegal things do more illegal things than people who don't do illegal things.

Really?

Lax laws against dope haven't kept people from using it. Once dope is legal in more jurisdictions, more use will result from it (including that of children).

Interesting that the number rose so much in the 90's when the war on drugs was in full effect, but in the mid-2000's, when laws have relaxed either with medical marijuana or recreational, the numbers have stopped growing so much. Thank you for sharing these telling stats.

So what you're saying is that due to more lax laws against marijuana, LESS people are using it?

(Yes people, dope does effect one's ability to reason).

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
If you're going to push this poison on America, I only ask one thing of you:

That YOU and YOUR LOVED ONES use it as well.

Challenge accepted!

If that isn't love nothing is. Shag loves his family so much that he wants them to share his misery with them.

 

[shagster01]

Wow, I'm speechless.



Lax laws against dope haven't kept people from using it. Once dope is legal in more jurisdictions, more use will result from it (including that of children).




So what you're saying is that due to more lax laws against marijuana, LESS people are using it?

(Yes people, dope does effect one's ability to reason).

No. I'm saying the same amount of people use it. That's what leveling off means. Man, being sober must effect your ability to comprehend basic charting trends.

If that isn't love nothing is. Shag loves his family so much that he wants them to share his misery with them.

They won't do it until they are of age, though.

I don't feed them sugar or hormone laced meat and dairy or non-organic fruit of the dirty dozen list. All of which are horrible for kids in developmental stages.

Do you care enough about kids to keep them away from all that stuff to? More kids have medical problems due to being fat than they do due to being high.

But the overweight anti-drug people don't want to turn the focus onto themselves now, do they?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Lax laws against dope haven't kept people from using it. Once dope is legal in more jurisdictions, more use will result from it (including that of children).

So what you're saying is that due to more lax laws against marijuana, LESS people are using it?

(Yes people, dope does effect one's ability to reason).

No. I'm saying the same amount of people use it. That's what leveling off means. Man, being sober must effect your ability to comprehend basic charting trends.

As seen in this photo, dopers have lined up outside a dope store in CO once it was made legal. Were there first time users in that crowd? I say that the odds are yes. You see shag, when you don't have to worry about being arrested for something that was once illegal (as dope was), you're more apt to at least experiment with it.


Quote:
If that isn't love nothing is. Shag loves his family so much that he wants them to share his misery with them.

They won't do it until they are of age, though.

You're surely not implying that dope is harmful to minors and children are you shag?

I don't feed them sugar or hormone laced meat and dairy or non-organic fruit of the dirty dozen list. All of which are horrible for kids in developmental stages.

Do you care enough about kids to keep them away from all that stuff to? More kids have medical problems due to being fat than they do due to being high.

But the overweight anti-drug people don't want to turn the focus onto themselves now, do they?

(And shag says that he's not a hippy.).

Here, breakfast is on me:

 

[shagster01]

As seen in this photo, dopers have lined up outside a dope store in CO once it was made legal. Were there first time users in that crowd? I say that the odds are yes. You see shag, when you don't have to worry about being arrested for something that was once illegal (as dope was), you're more apt to at least experiment with it.

There are also people that have used it and no longer do and weren't in that line. Thus the LEVELING OFF.

You're surely not implying that dope is harmful to minors and children are you shag?

Yes I am. Kids should not use it. They should not drink alcohol either. Or smoke cigarettes. Or go sky diving. Or drive. Or get tattoos.

Adults, however, can do any of those things for all I care.

(And shag says that he's not a hippy.).

Here, breakfast is on me:

Is that milk organic?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

There are also people that have used it and no longer do and weren't in that line. Thus the LEVELING OFF.

You surely aren't implying that people quit using dope because it was bad for them?

Yes I am. Kids should not use it. They should not drink alcohol either. Or smoke cigarettes. Or go sky diving. Or drive. Or get tattoos.

...or eat non organic fruit.

 

[intojoy]

Pot smokers don't beat up people . They're passive.

This is why I mentioned your age and your ignorance of who is using pot.

The very people you think are fighting the drug are using it .

The people who don't use it so that they can keep a sharp mind are the drug dealers south of the border who are very violent and murderous types.

If so many people use it as your data shows, the more the reason to legalize it and cut off the billion dollar drug trafficking murderous people in the black market .




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[intojoy]

Look at that picture - no wife beating types in it.


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