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:up:You made it up that we made it up.
And the Bride is a City.
I believe the Book over you.
:up:You made it up that we made it up.
And the Bride is a City.
I believe the Book over you.
You made it up that we made it up.
And the Bride is a City.
I believe the Book over you.
There is no account in scripture of Christ choosing a Bride a second time in the future.
The bride is--
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
The Church is the Bride to be, and mother of Gods children--
2Jn 1:1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
2Jn 1:2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
2Jn 1:3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
2Jn 1:4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
2Jn 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
MAD has invented another class of people.
LA
its sad, that your life now, and the life you have lived, is not even close to the ideas that you preach. you talk a good game, perhaps reflecting on what you SHOULD have done in your miserable existance. you like to TELL people to do the very things that you cannot do yourself. now, if you want to inflict pain with words, i AM your huckleberry. and i'm just gettin warmed up. few can withstand my verbal onslaught unscathed. i'm still waiting to meet my match - :shocked: you ain't the one LA - :cigar:
vs. Ephesians 4:1-6 KJV, 1 Timothy 4:16 KJV, 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV, 2 Timothy 4:2-5 KJVi am neither MAD nor sad. just a believer. GLAD. why label and tear each other down ? cuz your scared ? get over it, and love. live and give. find common ground and build. humble yourself. i walk the walk, so i can say this and mean it. i should be dead, and i know The Bible well. i do not brandish my wisdom and belittle others, unless it's heeded. this is for ALL the posters and thread starters that perpetuate the same endless, OBVIOUS points of contention, and expect a positive outcome. does anyone agree anymore ? or is it a clever contest. in fairness, we CANNOT take mid-acts as the final and superior conclusion of The Word of God. it's a small part of massive message. i guess i'm gettin really bored of the whole TOL atmosphere among self-proclaimed Christians. i probably won't be checking out tol much longer. Drivel. and everybody trys to look better than the next guy. ur all right, everybody else is wrong. we are all here together for a brief, fleeting moment of time on earth. we can do better than insults and condemnation. :idea:
"The Bride is all of the Saints of the first resurrection. LA"Rev_19:7-9 Rev_19:14-15
Mat_25:1
Mat_25:10
Psa_149:5-9
The Bride is all of the Saints of the first resurrection.
LA
"The Bride is all of the Saints of the first resurrection. LA"
That has not been stated or implied in any of the verses you quoted
do you have something like Eze 16:8 for a marriage covenant with gentiles
Eze_16:8 "When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord GOD, and you became mine.
we are the body of Christ
1Co_12:27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.
You are stuck in this Jew and Gentile thing which is of no account to God.
except in this way--
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Christs body is His Bride.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
LA
If Gentiles had had a covenant with God, He would not have needed the blood of Christ to bring us to Him from afar (Eph 2:13).
:think:
everyone needs the blood of Christ
Nor do I. That was the point.I don't know of any direct covenants with Gentiles
Now!
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Christs body is His Bride. LA
That has not been stated or implied in any of the verses you quoted
body of Christ ,yes
do you have something like Eze 16:8 for a marriage covenant with gentiles ?
There is no marriage covenant exclusively with Jews either.
LA
here is the marriage vow
Exo 24:6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins, and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar.
Exo 24:7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the ears of the people. And they said, All that Jehovah has said we will do, and be obedient.
Exo 24:8 And Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which Jehovah has made with you concerning all these words.
Eze_16:8 "When I passed by you again and saw you, behold, you were at the age for love, and I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your nakedness; I made my vow to you and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Lord GOD, and you became mine.
:think:
everyone needs the blood of Christ
I don't know of any direct covenants with Gentiles
Yes. This is the betrothed Jewish bride that proved to be unfaithful, which God divorced for her adulteries and unfaithfulness . . . right?
From "The Basics of Mid Acts Dispensationism. [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20090723105356/http://geocities.com/benwebb.geo/basics.html[/url] I draw your attention to--3: For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins [YELLOW]according to the scriptures;[/YELLOW] 4: And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day[YELLOW] according to the scriptures[/YELLOW]: So this mystery according to MAD was revealed first to Paul, yet it was IN THE SCRIPTURES. This presupposes that ALL people both in the OT times and in the new up to Paul were blind to the scriptures. After the resurrection, Jesus explained to His disciples the scriptures which referred to Himself, way before Paul was saved. Luk 24:25 [YELLOW]Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:[/YELLOW] Luk 24:26 [B] Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. [/B] The Lord would not have rebuked them for their blindness if they were never expected to understand the scriptures. MAD is just not right in their views.LA
You make no claim to be a citizen of that city?
I do . . .
The New Covenant of Grace that was ratified by the blood of Jesus Christ, offered on the cross, to justify and save a remnant of souls chosen in Him for redemption, out of all the nations of the world. Ephesians 1:3-12; Revelation 5:9-10, 7:10.